The Hoss wrote:
heavythrower wrote:
Professor X wrote:
krazykoukides wrote:
Going along with everybody’s posts:
Isn’t recovery ability also a genetic ‘factor’?
Aside from metabolism, it is probably one of the most important. I can train 6 or 7 days a week because of my recovery ability.
This is one reason I cringe when I see people telling newbs that they will overtrain so easily. They won’t know one way or the other until they spend some time actually training so hard they ever get close to it.
In fact, to be honest, I don’t think any guy who has trouble training more than 3 days a week without “overtraining” will ever get that big to start with.
ya, i think that far far far more many people under train than over train.
i dare anybody to tell me i have good genetics for strength and muscle, but i built myself up to training 2 times a day 5-7 days a week at one point and made progress doing it.
What did your split look like?
oh hell, your asking an old man with a failing memory to recall a lot,
um,
early am : light conditioning, mobility drills, trowing drills, 20-30 throws at 70-80% with 1-2 implements, then dynamic weight training(olympic lifts mostly at 50-70%), then warm down and more light conditioning(sleds dragging, short sprints)
early pm: light mobility work/dynamic warm up/very light conditioning, 20-30 throws with various puds(look it up), HEAVY weight training, ie push pressing, squats, deadlifts, high pulls OR substitute the weights with heavy duty jump drills(ill explain later), then more light conditioning and warm down.
my intense jump drill sessions consisted of mostly body weight stuff, but considering my size at the time, 260-270lbs, and what i was doing they were pretty intense.
-jump squats load bar an old rusty beat up warped bar with 95-225lbs, out on the field not in a gym, clean it to my back like i am doing squats, go down about 1/4-1/2 way and jump as hard up as possible, launching the bar off my shoulders into the air and letting it free fall to the ground. pick it up and repeat after a short rest.
-bleacher hops go up the bleachers steps hopping on two legs taking 2 at a time or on one leg one at a time.
long -hops basically a series of long jumps in a row
- med ball drills, simulate various throws with heavy med balls instead of the actual implement
-punches while on knees, with two hands, violently launch a shot or med ball from chest as far a possible
- take a med ball or a shot and throw it underhanded straight up and back as far as possible, really tear a piece of yourself off when you do this, to the point you have no control over your body at release, you go flying backwards and land on pads.
there are a million.
whew, that was a trip down memory lane…
this is cut and pasted from question directed at me i responded to on another thread.
this is the type of workload i took on when eating the massive amounts i spoke about on my info thread on the t alpha forum. (200 plus chicken wings, 2 large pizzas, etc)
i worked up to this volume over a few years of serious competition in collegiate and AAU track and field competition and Highland Games competition. i was watched and directed at first by experienced coaches who had done this before.
this was me working extremely hard 2 times a day 5-7 times a week, and i was not sitting on machines pumping out reps. i was on the platform moving barbells and on the field propelling my 270lb frame plus added resistance (various heavy implements) through space with control, technique and speed and explosiveness.
i just want people to be careful and not end up 40 years old and seeing yourself on a video at the beach and being so disgusted with your self that you get depressed.
thats what happened to me, though i stayed pretty strong, after i quit serious competition i got very fat and nonathletic. but i kept those eating habits.
not saying anybody is right or wrong, just be careful with the huge bulks guys.
