Hey
I want to know from your experience and what you know of, what supplement gives you the best result (gain fast muscle mass).
And what is the name of the product?
Thanks
if we are talking legal here
Whole RAW Milk… Seriously drink 1/2-1 gallon a day and bust ass in the gym and try to tell me you aren’t gaining some muscle.
There is no magic pill just food and hard work
Yes, Kalle says it best. FOOD is the best mass gainer. If your diet is in order I would add in a good post-workout drink like Surge mixed with creatine. ZMA is also an easy choice since it’s cheap and proven to raise testosterone levels.
He’s big.
Listen to him.
I know there is no magic pill.
Good food, good workout, and good rest are the best but with witch supplement you can add more to it
Creatine is something that’s stood the test of time. Beta Alinine looks promising.
5k calories a day will put on mass in no time. And don’t worry about getting fat, if you’re a “hard-gainer” it’s all going to turn into muscle.
Although you guys are right with your suggestions this guy wants supplement advice, not advice on how much milk or food to take in. The best supplement I have ever used is called Havoc by RPM. As long as you are taking the necessary supplements (protein, fish oil, vitamins E and C, etc) Havoc will yield great results; but use with caution.
Thank you all a lot! The food advices were very helpful also!
[quote]pushharder wrote:
playmaker08 wrote:
Although you guys are right with your suggestions this guy wants supplement advice, not advice on how much milk or food to take in. The best supplement I have ever used is called Havoc by RPM. As long as you are taking the necessary supplements (protein, fish oil, vitamins E and C, etc) Havoc will yield great results; but use with caution.
The point is supplements are all but worthless if real food and lots of it aren’t part of the equation. The word “supplement” means exactly what it says.[/quote]
Yes, I know that. But maybe this guy knows what to eat, now he is just interested in hearing what people feel is the best supplement, not food, for mass. If a poster wants food advice, give him food advice; if he wants supplement advice, give him supplement advice.
I have heard nothing but good things about muscle milk. It’s pretty calorie packed. It has higher amounts of fat and carbs, and tastes absolutely delicious.
Stay AWAY from those “MUCLE GAINER 5000X” and other garbage (I made that name up). That shit will pack on pounds of fat. It just has the worst mixes of fats/carbs, mostly empty bad carbs.
[quote]playmaker08 wrote:
pushharder wrote:
playmaker08 wrote:
Although you guys are right with your suggestions this guy wants supplement advice, not advice on how much milk or food to take in. The best supplement I have ever used is called Havoc by RPM. As long as you are taking the necessary supplements (protein, fish oil, vitamins E and C, etc) Havoc will yield great results; but use with caution.
The point is supplements are all but worthless if real food and lots of it aren’t part of the equation. The word “supplement” means exactly what it says.
Yes, I know that. But maybe this guy knows what to eat, now he is just interested in hearing what people feel is the best supplement, not food, for mass. If a poster wants food advice, give him food advice; if he wants supplement advice, give him supplement advice.[/quote]
I don’t agree with this I will ask what his diet is first every time. How can I give someone supplement advice if I don’t know how his diet is? If the guy is eating like a bird I am not going to recommend any supplements! How will I know he isn’t if I don’t ask first?
There is a big misconception with most people regarding muscle gain and supplements. 99% of the time when I see a friend I haven’t seen in awhile and they see I have gained some the FIRST question is (A How much do you bench? or (B What supplements do you take? Sometimes it is a mixture of the two and usually some sort of statement along the lines of “You must drink a lot of protein shakes, ha?” is thrown in there. I tell them I lift heavy shit and eat lots of good food, less than 10% of my daily caloric intake is from protein powder.
If someone comes on here and there first post is “what is the best supplement for quick muscle gain” with no other information (yes I checked their profile to see if it listed weight, training years, etc but it was all blank) I am going to tell them to eat more food.
No ofense to the original poster… Basically post up your daily diet, current stats and workout routine so you can get some more personalized suggestions.
[quote]Kalle wrote:
playmaker08 wrote:
pushharder wrote:
playmaker08 wrote:
Although you guys are right with your suggestions this guy wants supplement advice, not advice on how much milk or food to take in. The best supplement I have ever used is called Havoc by RPM. As long as you are taking the necessary supplements (protein, fish oil, vitamins E and C, etc) Havoc will yield great results; but use with caution.
The point is supplements are all but worthless if real food and lots of it aren’t part of the equation. The word “supplement” means exactly what it says.
Yes, I know that. But maybe this guy knows what to eat, now he is just interested in hearing what people feel is the best supplement, not food, for mass. If a poster wants food advice, give him food advice; if he wants supplement advice, give him supplement advice.
I don’t agree with this I will ask what his diet is first every time. How can I give someone supplement advice if I don’t know how his diet is? If the guy is eating like a bird I am not going to recommend any supplements! How will I know he isn’t if I don’t ask first?
There is a big misconception with most people regarding muscle gain and supplements. 99% of the time when I see a friend I haven’t seen in awhile and they see I have gained some the FIRST question is (A How much do you bench? or (B What supplements do you take? Sometimes it is a mixture of the two and usually some sort of statement along the lines of “You must drink a lot of protein shakes, ha?” is thrown in there. I tell them I lift heavy shit and eat lots of good food, less than 10% of my daily caloric intake is from protein powder.
If someone comes on here and there first post is “what is the best supplement for quick muscle gain” with no other information (yes I checked their profile to see if it listed weight, training years, etc but it was all blank) I am going to tell them to eat more food.
No ofense to the original poster… Basically post up your daily diet, current stats and workout routine so you can get some more personalized suggestions.
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I do agree with you, but this guy wants to know, from our own experiences, what SUPPLEMENTS we have seen best results with. Although I did not realize that this was his first post, therefore I am assuming he is new to lifting. Give us your background, and you will receive better advice than what supplements other posters have found worked for them.
[quote]Kalle wrote:
if we are talking legal here
Whole RAW Milk [/quote]
This part made me chuckle, isn’t it illegal in the US to sell raw milk?
Food and LHS (Lift Heavy Shit).
[quote]playmaker08 wrote:
Kalle wrote:
playmaker08 wrote:
pushharder wrote:
playmaker08 wrote:
Although you guys are right with your suggestions this guy wants supplement advice, not advice on how much milk or food to take in. The best supplement I have ever used is called Havoc by RPM. As long as you are taking the necessary supplements (protein, fish oil, vitamins E and C, etc) Havoc will yield great results; but use with caution.
The point is supplements are all but worthless if real food and lots of it aren’t part of the equation. The word “supplement” means exactly what it says.
Yes, I know that. But maybe this guy knows what to eat, now he is just interested in hearing what people feel is the best supplement, not food, for mass. If a poster wants food advice, give him food advice; if he wants supplement advice, give him supplement advice.
I don’t agree with this I will ask what his diet is first every time. How can I give someone supplement advice if I don’t know how his diet is? If the guy is eating like a bird I am not going to recommend any supplements! How will I know he isn’t if I don’t ask first?
There is a big misconception with most people regarding muscle gain and supplements. 99% of the time when I see a friend I haven’t seen in awhile and they see I have gained some the FIRST question is (A How much do you bench? or (B What supplements do you take? Sometimes it is a mixture of the two and usually some sort of statement along the lines of “You must drink a lot of protein shakes, ha?” is thrown in there. I tell them I lift heavy shit and eat lots of good food, less than 10% of my daily caloric intake is from protein powder.
If someone comes on here and there first post is “what is the best supplement for quick muscle gain” with no other information (yes I checked their profile to see if it listed weight, training years, etc but it was all blank) I am going to tell them to eat more food.
No ofense to the original poster… Basically post up your daily diet, current stats and workout routine so you can get some more personalized suggestions.
I do agree with you, but this guy wants to know, from our own experiences, what SUPPLEMENTS we have seen best results with. Although I did not realize that this was his first post, therefore I am assuming he is new to lifting. Give us your background, and you will receive better advice than what supplements other posters have found worked for them.
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I get what your saying but like I said throwing out advice on what is the best supplement for someone without knowing their background on their lifting or diet isn’t a good idea IMO
9 out of 10 times when someone posts a question like this food is the answer.
I haven’t tried a wide array of supplements (I don’t consider protein powder a supplement) but from what I have tried most stuff out their is just to expensive for the amount of gains they gave me.
I will give some supplement advice
If you go by food that is the most anabolic the hydrolyzed whey such as in search is at the top of the charts post workout. So take something like Surge post workout. Creatine is to cheap not to take, take 5 grams a day. I tried Beta Alanine and I think it helped with my muscular endurance but IMO to expensive for me currently at the moment, I don’t think not taking it is hindering my progress. I think Carbolin 19 gave me a little bit better body comp, made me more vascular and speed up my muscle and strength gains a little bit but again at max dose for ME I just didn’t find it cost effective.
So all in all I was dead serious when I saw Whole RAW milk gave me my best Size and strength gains drinking 1/2 gallon a day. I read that it has some enzyme in it that helps your body process large quantities of food better so that might have had something to do with it as I was taking in 5,400 calories a day at that point.
For me I don’t find supplements cost effective for the little bit of aid most give.
If you are a very advanced lifter and need every ounce of help you can get while staying natural or have more disposable income than me than that is a different story.
Of course if I was sponsored I would take a lot more supplements 
[quote]scottiscool wrote:
Kalle wrote:
if we are talking legal here
Whole RAW Milk
This part made me chuckle, isn’t it illegal in the US to sell raw milk?[/quote]
haha, yeah I meant to post something along the lines that technically it is not legal to sell it for human consumption in most states but is legal to drink it is still fairly easily obtainable in most areas. Just go to www.realmilk.com it has a list of all available outlets in your state.
It is legal in California (except Humbolt county, go figure?) btw and there is a small local dairy that sells it near here. I was buying a crate of the stuff at a time (4 gallons) Once you pay for the crate and bottling fees (which are redeemable) it is not that much more expensive than organic milk around here and a WHOLE lot better quality. Kind of cool seeing the actual cows you are getting your milk from outside grazing when you go get your milk.