Dudes, if any one person here touted their own specific, personal set of skills, I would keep my mouth shut.
Look at my first response, I disagreed with the “most men that post on this board” part. I equate “most” to “average”, and the average guy pisses in his pants when confronted, let alone gets punched in the face. Punched in the face was also a point you guys didn’t address, but as I said, I didn’t question specific claims.
By a girl? Physically, the average American male is taller and heavier than Rousey. He would be bigger by several weight classes.
I mentioned posters here anyway, not the average man. I’m assuming most posters here lift weights so they would be bigger and stronger than average. Some were in the military. Some do martial arts or wrestled in high school, maybe even college.
Watch Ronda fight and see how she reacts to getting punched in the face… by a female.
This is Ronda’s striking. She punches like a girl. I don’t think anyone here needs to worry about it.
Just on a side note I mostly always dated tall athletic black girls just due to natural preference and ive seen 2 athletic black girls knock men out with their firsts, the idea women can’t punch is just because most fall to the extreme of the bell curve, there are a tonne of nonathletic men who can’t crack and not loads but a decent amount of women who can.
First one I saw was a 6 foot nigerian girl whose father was a track and field athlete and whose mum was a Judoka saw her knock a grown big man out with 2 punches in a fast food place in Belgium she had zero training. Second was a 6,1 girl I dated whose dad was a famous black player in the PL in the 80s and all her brothers were football players. She could easily ragdoll me when we play wrestled and i saw her ko a guy in a club for grabbing her by the shoulder in an argument. Also saw her do 12 chinups at a bodyweight of 210lbs having never done them in her life. I don’t know a single woman who can do more than one or two, including women who lift at gyms.
Ronda Rousey isn’t an athlete. Shes a skilled grappler thats it. If you got the very best biggest most athletic females from the sprinting teams or the discus and you let them crack dudes you’d see plenty with knockout power. I don’t remember the episode but on JRE an MMA guy talks about his hostory dating big black girls and how hes seen a bunch ko men before too.
The thing about grappling is… anyone has a puchers chance
You don’t have a grapplers chance.
This only applies to untrained people.
Rhonda Rousey vs a black belt heavyweight recreational judoka?
Rhonda loses
Rhonda Rousey vs any untrained guy within 50lbs of her… Rhonda Rousey wins
So would Ronda Rousey beat Andrew Tate in the octagon?
He has more practice beating women than she does men.
This is the first time you’ve made me chuckle, well done.
If the guy is paying Rhonda to wrestle him, they both win.
I guess this is a thing that some female bodybuilders do to make money. They do private wrestling sessions with dudes. The killer Sally lady was doing this.
That was likely Denise Rutkowski.
Impressive photogenic-ass memory!
Haha! Thanks!
She was an attractive woman who unfortunately got brutally virilized by drugs. She had awesome genetics.
@anon18050987 @Andrewgen_Receptors
Dosing?
Sure, she was masculinised through steroid use
But she also had bipolar disorder (undiagnosed for a long time, had psychotic episodes and depressive episodes)
Eventually she developed serious drug problem. It is rumoured that methamphetamine and alcohol led to her winding up on the streets.
I’ve heard methamphetamine is more pleasurable than heroin. It can also permenantly alter your ability to feel pleasure. The neurotoxicity/dopaminergic dysregulation induced is permenant
Whereas with say… opiates
You CAN stop using (difficult though) and after 1-2-3 years (or less depending on duration of use) your reward pathways ‘reset’.
Meth is incredibly scary because it is one of the few drugs where the damage incurred through use is quick, significant and PERMENANT. Australia has the highest per capita rate of methamphetamine use in the developed world, hence it’s talked about a fair bit here.
“The effect of an IV hit of methamphetamine is the equivalent of 10 orgasms all on top of each other lasting for 30 minutes to an hour, with a feeling of arousal that lasts for another day and a half”
#meth #legalizeit #letmehavetenorgasmsontopofoneanother
I imagine feeling that good would actually fuck up normal life… even if only once…
Haha
What a podcast guest he would be
Worked out at the same gym as her in the mid-late 80’s. Best rear delts I’ve ever seen on a human in person.
Fuck me sideways, I’d never even considered taking meth before reading this.
Can you find the effect of heroin, in the same units of measure? I’ve always wondered what makes people use something that causes death pretty frequently-often continuing to use stuff from the same batch that killed their associate yesterday.
On the pleasure scale, meth ranks far higher than heroin
What is WORSE with heroin is the severity of the withdrawls, and while reward pathways are screwed up with opiate addiction… after a while the user doesn’t get much of a rush anymore and they are predominantly using to starve off withdrawl.
But aside from the rush, opiates are very good at making your problems go away… they’ll put you to sleep, and during that sleep NOTHING matters…
The reason a heroin addicted individual keeps using despite their friends dying is because the prospect of going through withdrawl is genuinely harrowing… that and most heroin addicts sit atop a mountain of problems… including having to deal with all the nasty shit they might have done while under the influence while trying to get more heroin is slso harrowing.
Heroin is actually just a pro-drug to morphine. What makes it so ‘special’ is… when injected it avoids first pass effect (taken orally, heroin is pro drug to morphine) and it crosses the blood brain barrier VERY quickly. Through a process called deacetylation (heroin is ‘diacetylmorphine’) heroin is quickly converted to two main metabolites… inactive 3-monoacetylmorphine and the active 6-monoacetylmorphine (6-MAM)
6-mam has a very high binding affinity to the u-opiod receptor (receptor largely responsible for analgesia, but also implicated in the development of addiction/feeling euphoric etc).
6-mam also results in a very large histamine release. To an opiate naieve individual this would result in intense itching… to an addict this manifests as part of the ‘body load/high’ associated with H use. Morphine also causes a lot of histamine release…
6-mam may also bind to certain subtypes of opiate receprors that morphine itself doesn’t bind to… the pharmacological significance of this is unknown.
Most ‘heroin’ on the streets today is a mix of fentanyl and xylazine… look up xyalazine… terrifying… actually causes limbs to rot off and shit…
Xylazine is addictive in it’s own way… fentanyl is a very potent opiate. The ‘high’ from fentanyl is purportedly nowhere near as nice as heroin… but the potency of fentanyl is magnitudes higher than heroin… but duration of action is shorter meaning addicts have to use every few hours or less as opposed to 2-4x/day with heroin if using purely to starve off withdrawl.
This means the morphine equivalent dose you’d be dependent on as a fentanyl addict would be magnitudes higher than that of a heroin addict (usually). This usually means withdrawls are going to be even worse.
Some countries still use heroin medicinally. After all… it’s just an opiate.
Getting addicted to injecting morphine, oxycodone etc is just as bad… a lot of ‘how addictive’ an opiate is depends on individualistic predisposition coupled with route of administration (how quickly does substance peak in bloodstream).
So injecting is more addictive than smoking or taking it up the nose… but all of the above provides more of an instantaneous reward than taking it orally or using a patch.
Still… can become dependent or addicted to opiates through ANY ROA provided you take em long enough. I’ve gone through (prescription) opiate withdrawl a number of times (have a prescription for 6-8 months then you go off).
“Drugs of abuse release dopamine. Alcohol, for example, produced a release of dopamine from about 100 units to about 200, You get a similar magnitude of an effect with nicotine. Cocaine produces a huge release of dopamine, from 100 units to about 350 units, however the mother of them all is methamphetamine. Methamphetamine you get a release from the base level to about 1250 units.”
Morphine is around 200 units… I believe IV heroin is around 4-500… keep in mind ‘units’ is arbitrary and there’s more to how pleasurable something is than how much dopamine is released
These units refer to dopamine release in nucleus accumbens (somewhat responsible for regulating motivation/reward seeking behaviour)
If you’ve taken opiates before (in hospital, bad injury, chronic illness, whatever) you’ve PROBABLY noticed there’s nothing THAT great about them.
But if you’ve got serious issues you are trying to run away from… the way they can just put you to sleep would probably be very alluring.
I’ve never had heroin because that isn’t an approved drug in Australia. But through medical administration in hospital i’ve been given IV fentanyl, oxycodone and morphine.
Orally via script i’ve had tapentadol, oxycodone, tramadol, buprenorphine (0.2mg tablets, not the 2-16mg doses used for drug addiction) and codeine.
I’ve also had a script for a buprenorphine patch before.
I can’t comment on street opiates… but there’s nothing particuarly special about prescription opiates if you take them as intended. Any ‘nice feeling’ is pretty much gone within a week after which continually using just works for pain.
Still become physically dependent though and withdrawl (esp if you go cold turkey) isn’t fun… and that’s from doses that are magnitudes lower than what an addict has to withdrawl from…
The vast, vast majority of ‘heroin overdoses’ nowadays are related to fentanyl. The truth is, opiate addicts have less incentive to stop because opiate use provided you aren’t using so much you stop breathing is one of the least harmful addictions you can have in terms of physical damage incurred. With xyalazine the story is different, and fentanyl is very dangerous to be fucking around with… with fentanyl flooding the streets in the USA (and carfentanil) the death rates have spiked
You can blame drug users for this spike in deaths… or you can blame the cartels, dealers and corrupt politicians i.e China, Mexico for pushing fentanyl, carfentanil, protonitazine etc.
But opiates themselves… before fentanyl a LOT of opiate addicts were high functioning (i.e no one knew about their habit for decades… not wife, not coworkers… no one). My cousin was a heroin addict and NO one had a clue until he asked for help because he was sick of being a slave to the drug.
With alcoholism you might feel great… but you can feel how unhealthy it is… with opiates this doesn’t factor into the equation. You don’t feel “unhealthy” aside from constipation, low sex drive, and urinary retention if you are particularly sensitive to side effects. That and they’re very good for reducing physical and EMOTIONAL pain. Someone who is an addict + is using to deal with injuries that would otherwise stop them from working will have a lot of trouble getting off because now they have to suffer egregiously. An addict with psychiatric comorbidities who is self medicating with opiates to numb themselves will never get off until the mental illness is dealt with.
Hmm, cocaine may be more my style. Less drawbacks.
Gonna go find some coke, thanks for the help!
