The Andrew Tate Case

I have several solutions, but we aren’t going to do them, partly because American men are gluttons for punishment. So long as many of them can dip their wick, they will accept all the abuse that can come after if they cross the wrong woman.

Men are partly, maybe even majorly, to be blame for all problems discussed. They went right along with what caused the issues discussed here.

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Thanks for the info. I never looked into it.

Re-Sequester female sexuality. Get rid of birth control. Alimony and Child Support go away. Single mothers no longer get special rights and welfare (unless widowed and DNA test verified children). Bring fathers back into the home and incentivize them (and mothers) to stay. No more women in the military. Bring back slut shaming. Reduce the need for college education in career fields that clearly don’t need it. Make the school system more practical with traditional gender-based curriculum.
No more voting without skin in the game. Want to vote? Pass a civics test, provide ID, and register for the draft. No more voting in local elections unless you own land there and that is your primary residence (wouldn’t work for big cities like Manhattan).

In short: making men, men again. And making women, wives again.

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I’m confused. Are false rape claims uncommon, or are they 99% of claimed “rapes”?

I wrote an entire paper on this subject to piss off my sophomore critical writing feminazi professor. I can tell you without checking that your numbers here are incorrect.

So what if you are like me, and wouldn’t be able to serve in the military because you have a genetic disease? I suppose I couldn’t vote?

So you have to own property? The majority of gen Z would never be able to vote… ever, you’d have only the wealthiest voting…

Birth control was developed in the 60’s in response to SKY high rates of teen pregnancy. Have you looked into the epidemiology behind why things like birth control and sex ed became omnipresent.

I agree with you about the child support. As to welfare… so if a guy knocks up a woman and splits because he’s a douche… the woman should be punished?

Otherwise I can agree about the welfare depending on the context.

Or… reduce the price of college admissions. In Aus college used to be free… In much of Europe college isn’t free. You are prioritizing physicality (military service)… something which many aren’t capable of over education… something the majority are actually capable of attaining.

PROSECUTED false rape claims are uncommon. False rape claims alone aren’t that uncommon, but most are chucked out because it is very difficult to prove.

I pulled my numbers from studies, as did you it seems. It is 1% of rape cases that result in a guilty verdict… up to 3% depending on country… not 1% of rape claims that are false (that number is cas high as 15%, but of those 15% only 4% or so actually wind up with a guilty verdict)

That’s not almost 1/4th of that 15%… if 15% was 100%… it’s 4% of that 100% that winds up actually reaching a guilty verdict.

How about men just stop supporting female behaviors they, on the one hand enjoy and on the other find despicable? It’s men who are validating these behaviors. It’s as if men want the freedom to behave immorally but want to defer all accountability for the negative outcomes on women.

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He said bring back slut shaming.

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You can be admin clerk. Physical fitness tests for ultra non-cmmbatants is stupid.

I own 2 houses. I couldn’t give a fuck of gen z owns property or not, i don’t want those fucks voting.

It was developed as a means of eugenics and coincided with the sexual revolution.

Yes. She shouldn’t be fucking dudes she’s not married to, or is convinced that he won’t split. when the responsibility lands on the female (as the gatekeeper to sex), you’d be surprised how much more responsible they’d become.

No. The result will be the same: an inflated need for a stupid fucking sheet of paper to prove 90% of what you learned is worthless.

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Maybe men should be shamed instead. Can a slut be a slut without a man?

And how uncommon is it to claim rape and never prosecute?

If a girl made a very convincing story against you for raping her, everyone believes her - even if you never did. Damage is done with or without the court.

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When people say “bring back slut shaming”

Are they unaware that such a concept de facto exists unless you are hanging around creeps or
‘perpetual children’. If some girl is going around banging crowds of guys, the men that will hang around her are generally NOT high quality guys. The friends she will have tend not to be the girls you’d want to marry.

People tend to group together based on class, behavior, race, nationality, religion etc. How many slutty women do or I hang around? Zero… If you weren’t married… how many slutty women would you be hanging around given the values you’ve developed over your lifespan?

And men are slut shamed… Take the jewish community (tightly knit community) for example. Men within the Australian Jewish community who develop a reputation of being a “player” have a hard time getting dates. No reputable girl wants to become known as “the next knotch on the players belt”. It’s not “shaming”, but it’s a consequence in that many women, and even some men will be wary of you as a result of your actions. I refer to a slut as someone who impulsively sleeps around without a care in the world for how they impact others.

Actually you can’t… I looked into applying for the military before being diagnosed with a genetic disease. Autism alone is automatic disqualification even if high functioning. The military doesn’t approve applicants who take regular medication either…

So you’re trying to gerrymander in order to favor your own kind.

The initial concepts re eugenics was proposed in the 30’s, but birth control hadn’t been synthesized. The race to actually create birth control emanated from

While birth out of wedlock wasn’t as common at it was in the 1950’s… the rate of teen pregnancy was over 5x higher in the 50’s than it is now

Of all pregnancies that were out of wedlock in the 50’s (less than now), a LOT of them were related to teen pregnancy. If you were to crunch the numbers to figure out how many teen pregnancies out of wedlock occurred per capita pre birth control vs now, it’s lower now.

Notwithstanding, women under 20 shouldn’t be getting pregnant anyway as maternal mortality rates skyrocket below the age of 20.

The average age of marriage in the 1950s early to mid 20s. Those who DID get married in their teens were far more likely to get a divorce when no fault divorce became a thing.

Then you can’t vote. Problem solved.

No, I’m saying if someone who rents an apartment for 3 months shouldn’t have a say in what becomes local law for the next X number of years. I’m also in favor of raising the voting age to 25.

What do you think the average female body count was then, compared to what it is now?

I don’t hang out with any women. This has nothing to do with values, it’s that i find very little value added in doing so - and often that value is at the cost of dealing with woman problems (drama, shit tests, betatization, etc.).

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So you aren’t gerrymandering

But anyone with autism or more/less any reasonable degree of disability (including congenital issues with eyesight, deafness, blindness etc) can’t vote.

If you were my friend and you were saying this to my face, I’d be quite irritated with you… you are 100% gerrymandering here.

You are trying to nullify the voice of the young because YOU don’t like what they have to say. Especially considering the rising costs of living “but I own 2 houses”… good for you

Where I live the average shitty house costs upwards of 1 million dollars…

To be honest, I think we are done here. There is no point talking to someone who doesn’t believe that I ought to have the right to vote. That is tremendously insulting…

You ought to vote because you’ve served in the military, others shouldn’t have that right… get off your high horse…

Men should be accountable for their behavior too, but we’ve already covered the double standard and why it was used.

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No. What kind of question is this?

A woman gets shamed for a behavior that required a man. That sounds like men wanting their cake and eating it too. Men hate sluts but then actively seek them out. Then they cry about not being able to find a good woman.

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What if the woman is a lesbian.

Then she COULD still be a slut :thinking:

She gets to suffer like straight men.