Whose fault do you think it is that young men are untrained to be men? Male arrested development did not happen organically.
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Men.
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How so?
(Genuine question - not just being argumentative.)
To continue on previous post.
Jordan Peterson
My retired therapist told me he had numerous women in his office who followed this pattern: ordinary, responsible man for marriage and child raising, and thrilling man for side piece. I remember he told me a story of a female client who took a bat to her husband because of actual or suspected cheating even though she had been cheating for years. 
But is that a circumstance that is common among women or the women who are in therapy?
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Iâd say itâs a bit hasty to say men or women are not monogamous. It applies to a portion of both groups. Iâd say given opportunity, men are less monogamous than women though. By that, how many men out there would be cheating if they could seduce women as easily as woman can seduce a man?
Many men are monogamous because their wife is their only option (unless they want to put in a lot of effort, and are okay with a lot of risk), if their wife is monogamous it is because she is choosing to be.
There is a guy on YouTube that Iâve watched a bit of that suggests that in a relationship one individual will always be more attracted to the other. That one will be the adorer and one will be the adored. The roles can be switched, but one will more often be the adorer, and the other more often the adored. Different relationships have different levels of which is adored and which is the adorer. Pros and cons to each. The adorer gets to be with the one they love, and the adored gets to be loved, but misses some of the emotional part of being in love. Where I am going with this? I think monogamy works better if the woman is the adorer, and the man the adored. The adorer gets the most emotional stuff out of the relationship, they get to be with the one they love, they get to do the loving. I think women in this position are less likely to cheat. The adored is up on a pedestal. That can be great too, but many women would rather have the emotional feel in love position. If women are the adored then I think it is common to have an internal feeling that they could do better, and I think this can lead to cheating. They want to have those feelings for a man they see as attractive more than they want those feelings from a man.
Iâd also like to know what numerous means? Did the therapist have 100 women as clients and this was 2-5 of them? Was it 50%? IDK.
Does someone like Andrew Tate want a wife and kids? The guy seems to view women as if they are objects to be used for his pleasure on a whims notice.
The average bodycount has been around 10 since the 1940s. Gen X HAD the most sex, the average gen X male has slept with 16 women.
gen Z men appear to be having more sex than gen X men had (going by age). This goes against the narrative here. Some surveys find the average guy in his early 20âs (before 21) has already slept with 7 women.
However the disparity between sex based rates of sexual intercourse is wider now than it was back in the day. I.e with boomers the average guy had 10 partners, average girl had 7. With gen Z the average guy has slept with 7 women, the average girl has slept with 2 guys by the age of 21.
If the studies are to be taken at face value, it actually seems like guys are sleeping around more (with promiscuous women) and women are sleeping around less. This may reflect how âdatingâ and long term relationships have become less common as people are focusing on career centric lifestyles in order to try and avoid the burden of living paycheck to paycheck just to cover rent when they finish up university.
Women are generally less likely to sleep around than guys. Lower libido, risk to benefit assessment isnât worth it (girls can get pregnant, and social consequences, women are also generally less likely to take risks).
Not common all around, I believe.
I donât know either, but infidelity was no uncommon subject in his office.
And not to sound like a jerk, but given how most American women look, the idea that they could have this exciting, dashing guy on the side is implausible to me. This sounds like an option for housewives of the wealthy.
I actually take this back. Infidelity is not so common, but itâs also not uncommon. I donât know stats on this but I donât think only some tiny fraction of people are unfaithful. But I might be wrong.
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They shouldnât be because the numbers donât add up. Maybe gay gen Z orgies explain the difference? Perhaps some lying going on in the surveys?
Well, they have a larger pool of potential partners given how many of them are gender fluid.
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These same women do have men, sometimes more than one.
Decent looking men?
I donât think so
Not unless they have moneyz
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But they arenât Brad Pitt. Maybe the exciting aspect is the cheating and not who they are cheating with.
No, they arenât. What does these menâs looks have to do with this?
You mentioned how these women in therapy had the exciting guy on the side but most women arenât going to have access to this type of guy. I would guess most women who are cheating are cheating with a family member or with some guy they work with.
It was reported such women in his office were with thrilling men.
Furthermore it doesnât take a therapist to reveal such activity. One knows some women are like this just by living.
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