44% showcase SOME degree of support
The majority don’t have any clue as to what the nitty gritty details of BLM are
So say 30% of that 44% will say “hmmmm… yea, sounds right” in response to BLM
You’ll probably find the percentage of Americans who know of the political ideologies the BLM movement pushes yet still support the organisation is staggeringly small.
Speaking as a privileged, straight white man:
If I find myself in competition with a disabled black lesbian for a job, and she has the exact same qualifications and experience as me, I think it’s totally fair for the employer to give her preference.
Why? Think of much harder it was for her to get here than me. We can’t just pick a random point in time (e.g. today) and say, oh as of NOW we should have a level playing field. As a straight white man, it’s been easier for me all the way through my life.
@Andrewgen_Receptors But I suspect your bigger point is that you don’t want to end up with an affirmative action outcome where incompetent people get over-promoted to keep the woke brigade happy. Which is very fair. However I’ll point you to Trump giving his useless family and cronies lucrative taxpayer-funded jobs and contracts as the opposite and, in my view, bigger problem.
Ask yourself: if you could choose, right now, to be born a straight white man to middle-class parents, or to be a gay black woman, which would you choose? You’re going to choose being a straight white man at ANY point in history, and that tells you all you need to know about which way the playing field is tilted.
Rephrase the question
Would I rather be born into poverty?
No… aside from that I don’t think blacks or gays are at a massive disadvantage due to their race or sexual orientation in secular, first world countries as of 2023.
This one guy makes updates on the case around the clock. Surprise: another one in which Tate says he’s not guilty, there’s no evidence, and this case is not actually about his possible wrongdoing (obviously, innocent until proven guilty).
@Dani_Shugart to get the lowdown on the vacuum that was created by Sexual Revolution in which people like Andrew Tate and what I refer to as the surrogate-daddy industry, comprised of people like him, Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Jocko Willink, and so on, come to fill the ranks, I recommend:
The Boy Crisis by Dr. Warren Farrell (I remember having some qualms with his solutions, but hey, no one’s perfect.
The Garbage Generation: The Consequences of the Destruction of the Two-parent Family and the Need to Stabilize it by Strengthening Its Weakest Link, the Father’s Role by Dr. Daniel Amneus
If you want to get the detailed low-down on the seriousconsequences in all important facets and institutions of our lives, read:
The New Politics of Sex: The Sexual Revolution, Civil Liberties, and the Growth of Governmental Power by Dr. Stephen Baskerville
A Gentleman’s Guide to Manners, Sex, and Ruling the World: How to Survive as a Man in the Age of Misandry-- and Do So with Grace by Dr. Stephen Baskerville. I think this book has information and solutions for men better than all the other talking heads and others obviously better than Tate’s advice on how to be a top G! It also continues on about Sexual Revolution in this one.
I see there has been mention of inceldom here. From reading the latter two books, one will see why there is now inflated inceldom. I say inflated because there have always been some incels around but not at the estimated 30%-plus of the male population aged 18 to 35 we have now. And contrary to popular belief, only a tiny fraction of them lash out violently on society.
Incel simply means, involuntarily womanless men or man who can’t find a woman. I think the appropriate amount of time for one to be qualified as incel is two years of being womanless, which is a condition infuriating to nearly men! Few things can make a man angrier than lack of a woman.
If I recall in your post you mentioned the Revolution as decades long. There’s actually an excellent book on the subject written in a time-line fashion about it going back to the late 1700s and how it erodes civilization and has in some cases precludes tyranny and actually violent revolutions (eg, French Revolution). I will withhold this recommendation for good reason, but with my cues here you might stumble upon it in a rabbit-hole journey if you choose to take one. I don’t expect anyone to have the same interest I do in this subject. But I do believe people seriously underestimate its effects and don’t know where these consequences (broken homes, civil unrest, criminality, degradation of institutions and so on and so on) came from.
I’ll add that, after education on the subject one will realize that the notion, “sex is just sex,” is utterly goofy.
This is illogical. Who has an advantage? A white male born in a trailer park to a single mother who is a drug addict, who also had a boyfriend that physically and sexually abused him, or a disabled black lesbian brought up in a middle class or higher nuclear family in a supportive community environment?
Just being white and male doesn’t mean life is easy.
This is a pointless question. It’s also bigoted and racist. Ask a black lesbian what she would choose. The question assumes that there is something inherently negative about being anything other than a white male.
If that’s your opinion , fair enough, we can agree to disagree. My reading is that measures such as literacy rates, infant mortality rates, incarceration rates, unemployment rates, average incomes would all skew in favour of whites, in both the US and the UK.
That leads me to think that blacks and whites don’t start with a level playing field.
(I guess I need to include the disclaimer that I am not conflating this with saying ALL whites have it easy and ALL blacks have it tough).
Is it just because they are black, or perhaps because of other factors that are perhaps more cultural? Perhaps a bit of both.
We see black immigrants fair better in those metrics you listed. That makes me think it isn’t just being black that is the determining factor. My personal opinion is that it is a contributing factor to those metrics, but being black isn’t the whole reasoning. It isn’t all because of discrimination. There are some cultural things that contribute to poorer performance in those measures.
I agree with you in part. I think that a person’s circumstances should be taken into account for certain things. But it should be just the circumstances not necessarily the color of skin. This will disproportionately help black people, but it will also recognize upper class blacks probably don’t need a free ride to college, and dirt poor whites shouldn’t be passed by because they are white. It is trying to help people that need help, vs just assuming people of a certain skin tone need help.
Yeah, spot on. The difficulty is trying to match one-size-fits-all-policies to individual circumstances.
I think most people are OK with the concept of giving underdogs a helping hand so they get a fair chance, but everyone disagrees on who those underdogs are and just how much of a hand to give them.
I mean, I want the other guy to have a sporting chance, but if he starts beating me then I’m going to get annoyed!
No, it isn’t. 44% is a massive amount of support and you damn well know it.
Why are you commenting on social issues in a country you don’t even live in?
Any discussion on “Yellow Privilege”?
I think I agree with Unreal here. I am no expert, and don’t have stats on it, but most support I think is blind support.
I actually went to the BLM website because I heard they supported some untenable things, and wanted to verify. When I heard these things they supported, I thought it probably wasn’t true. They lost support from me when I read those things I was told on their website. I’ve also had the experience of talking with other liberal people who formerly supported BLM (by supported, more so thought BLM was a good thing). When I showed them the stuff from their website, they changed their minds on them.
I do think it’s an accurate statement that many that support BLM, don’t understand what BLM stands for.
Every paragraph in your comment made me say “WOW!” out loud. Thank you for the information, the book recommendations (they all look fascinating), and the time you spent on responding.
I’ve always felt it was more significant but didn’t realize how much it’s had an impact throughout history. It makes sense now, but my mind has been blown.
Thanks. And you’re welcome. @Dani_Shugart
We can, if people believe there have been actual wrongs. When people want to continue stacking the deck in favor of some, it’s quite obvious they don’t believe it’s wrong to do so.
I do believe this is already happening.
I’m assuming you also hold this stance for the positions Big Biden most certainly helped Crackhead Biden obtain? I don’t like nepotism/corruption on either end on the table, but this is a very different subject.
You are aware that this is quite literally systemic racism if applied everywhere…? It would be fair if they hired EITHER of you, as you would both be equally qualified. Giving preferential treatment based on race, religion, gender, orientation is the antithesis of the civil rights act.
Asians benefit the most from America’s white supremacist institution. I guess that’s what happens when we conflate “white supremacy” and “hard work + active parenting”.
I agree with this, but applied to most everything in politics. Let’s not forget how much support Hillary had for president, when her bodycount of political rivals is in competition with that of Putin. Yet she still had MASSIVE support. (I’ll spare the tangent of us needing ranked choice voting).
The matter at hand is that 2 years ago, one could not say “all lives matter” without being called a racist.
You could not be critical of the organization (which was always a front for marxism) without being branded racist.
Businesses could ask employees not to wear a MAGA hat (which is fair), but could not do the same for someone wearing a BLM shirt.
While i don’t agree with Kanye on many things, his making of a “White Lives Matter” shirt showed some amazing hypocrisy. You wear one of those in public and you’ll be called a KKK member… so why is it not also racist to wear one saying “Black Lives Matter”?
When people aren’t allowed to question things without being labeled “racist” or “bigoted”, there’s a problem.
Well… that ship has sailed.
Today “yellow privilege” equates to “hard work + active parenting.”
