I’m far too lazy to search for quotes, but we all know you have a serious fear of not being the biggest possible and it has held you back from actually getting lean all this time.
You also JUST got done telling HM that he or anyone else shouldn’t do a competition until they are bigger than they are even comfortable being, and there’s no way they could diet down and looked filled out still so it’s pointless to do it (that was insinuated the way you made the comment)
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
Continue to get leaner, but do it more gently than you have been. Don’t worry about contests, you don’t owe anyone anything, least of all on a fucking internet forum.[/quote]
That about sums it up 
S[/quote]
Bingo. I bolded the important part.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am now starting a business.[/quote]
Potential name of business:
“House of Biceps and Bicuspids”
or
“Biceps and Bicuspids, Bitches!”
[quote]josh86 wrote:
I’m far too lazy to search for quotes, but we all know you have a serious fear of not being the biggest possible and it has held you back from actually getting lean all this time.
You also JUST got done telling HM that he or anyone else shouldn’t do a competition until they are bigger than they are even comfortable being, and there’s no way they could diet down and looked filled out still so it’s pointless to do it (that was insinuated the way you made the comment)[/quote]
Uh, what is your point? I compare myself to NPC competitors. Why the fuck would I have dieted down back when I weighed 210, 220 or even 230 when i was still growing well?
What would that have accomplished?
I am really trying to understand your logic here. You are telling me that my personal goals of being really fucking big are wrong?
If not, then what is the point? Those are MY goals.
What I told Holymac is true. Do you understand how much weight even holymac would have to drop to be contest ready? The only guy who might get away with only having to drop 10lbs or so to be in contest shape here is Madtitan. Even kingbeef would have to likely drop under 200lbs to get on stage (maybe less than 190).
Wait, what is YOUR stage of training. I am assuming I am discussing this with someone who understands most of this already.
This isn’t about your goals…this is about you trying to push your goals on other people. Telling them they shouldn’t compete until they get to a particular size just because YOU wouldn’t. I don’t care if you ever compete or not.
I’ve been lifting a few years and went from 120 lbs to 234 lbs (starting after i was 19 or 20 - so no that weight gain isn’t bc i was going through puberty).
isthisrealife?
[quote]josh86 wrote:
This isn’t about your goals…this is about you trying to push your goals on other people. Telling them they shouldn’t compete until they get to a particular size just because YOU wouldn’t. I don’t care if you ever compete or not.
I’ve been lifting a few years and went from 120 lbs to 234 lbs (starting after i was 19 or 20 - so no that weight gain isn’t bc i was going through puberty).
Edit : i dunno what the point of even debating or arguing anything with you even is since you have NEVER and will never admit when someone else is correct. [/quote]
WTF? When did I tell someone they shouldn’t compete? I even fucking numbered the points made and none of them said “don’t compete until you weigh x amount”. I told him not to post pictures while dieting on THIS forum because of idiots…like you apparently. I told HM that he will likely have to be bigger than he is to look the way he wants on stage…and he is NOT trying to compete now so what the fuck is your issue?
Look, we get it, some of you get a hard on for trying to constantly call me out on everything written…but have any of you noticed yet that YOU are the ones who end up looking like jackasses?
I’ve always understood Professor X’s advice to not diet for a contest early on as the following:
1 - The people who want to enter a contest are genuinely into the sport, they want to look like a body builder.
2 - They mean well, but they often dont understand exactly how much weight they will have to lose to do it
3 - They really are not that muscular in the first place, but they think they are
4 - Dieting down at their level would largely lead them to spin their wheels trying to get very lean, when they could have spent those few months adding even more size (which THEY want)
5 - An understanding of how muscular/lean someone needs to be BEFORE dieting down to LOOK LIKE A BODY BUILDER (the goal) when they are finished dieting.
Therefore, the advice to “wait until you are more muscular” is not in line with X’s goals, its in line with the other persons goals, and he has probably seen enough people spin their wheels dieting down when they could have been making even more progress.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I’ve always understood Professor X’s advice to not diet for a contest early on as the following:
1 - The people who want to enter a contest are genuinely into the sport, they want to look like a body builder.
2 - They mean well, but they often dont understand exactly how much weight they will have to lose to do it
3 - They really are not that muscular in the first place, but they think they are
4 - Dieting down at their level would largely lead them to spin their wheels trying to get very lean, when they could have spent those few months adding even more size (which THEY want)
5 - An understanding of how muscular/lean someone needs to be BEFORE dieting down to LOOK LIKE A BODY BUILDER (the goal) when they are finished dieting.
Therefore, the advice to “wait until you are more muscular” is not in line with X’s goals, its in line with the other persons goals, and he has probably seen enough people spin their wheels dieting down when they could have been making even more progress.
Please correct me if I am wrong.[/quote]
Not wrong at all. I am trying to figure out why people who have seen my posts for ten fucking years STILL can’t comprehend them. They literally see what they want to see.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I’ve always understood Professor X’s advice to not diet for a contest early on as the following:
1 - The people who want to enter a contest are genuinely into the sport, they want to look like a body builder.
2 - They mean well, but they often dont understand exactly how much weight they will have to lose to do it
3 - They really are not that muscular in the first place, but they think they are
4 - Dieting down at their level would largely lead them to spin their wheels trying to get very lean, when they could have spent those few months adding even more size (which THEY want)
5 - An understanding of how muscular/lean someone needs to be BEFORE dieting down to LOOK LIKE A BODY BUILDER (the goal) when they are finished dieting.
Therefore, the advice to “wait until you are more muscular” is not in line with X’s goals, its in line with the other persons goals, and he has probably seen enough people spin their wheels dieting down when they could have been making even more progress.
Please correct me if I am wrong.[/quote]
Not wrong at all. I am trying to figure out why people who have seen my posts for ten fucking years STILL can’t comprehend them. They literally see what they want to see.[/quote]
Bookmark this shit for reposts, haha
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
i have managed to get bigger and stronger in the two and half years i’ve been a member here without having to make a ‘hey look at me getting bigger/stronger’ thread.
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Just so You know, I would read that thread. Like you say about Way and the others, It is really motivating to see someone set out their goals for everyone to see and then work towards them. Look a DHO’s thread, I bet a few people looked at the first page and were like “whatever” but you get to his current pics and see what he has acheived, THATS fucking motivating.
You are obvioulsy not a guy to tute his own horn but I’m sure keeping a thread of their progress was of benefit to those guys as well as others.
[quote]Doyle wrote:
Just so You know, I would read that thread. Like you say about Way and the others, It is really motivating to see someone set out their goals for everyone to see and then work towards them. Look a DHO’s thread, I bet a few people looked at the first page and were like “whatever” but you get to his current pics and see what he has acheived, THATS fucking motivating.
You are obvioulsy not a guy to tute his own horn but I’m sure keeping a thread of their progress was of benefit to those guys as well as others.[/quote]
ha.
i appriciate it man, but i feel i have a ways to go before any thread i make can really be a help to people.
yeah, DOH is pretty nuts. i worked out with him a few months back. dude is rediculous.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
i appriciate it man, but i feel i have a ways to go before any thread i make can really be a help to people.
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Its not just about a thread to help people with some kind of mystical advice. Seeing your rate of progress, the rate I bet you are going to continue to make, is very motivating to see even though you may not be at the level you feel you want to be it. Everyone making progress will have something we can all learn from.
[quote]Doyle wrote:
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
i have managed to get bigger and stronger in the two and half years i’ve been a member here without having to make a ‘hey look at me getting bigger/stronger’ thread.
[/quote]
Just so You know, I would read that thread. Like you say about Way and the others, It is really motivating to see someone set out their goals for everyone to see and then work towards them. Look a DHO’s thread, I bet a few people looked at the first page and were like “whatever” but you get to his current pics and see what he has acheived, THATS fucking motivating.
You are obvioulsy not a guy to tute his own horn but I’m sure keeping a thread of their progress was of benefit to those guys as well as others.[/quote]
You’d actually probably kill yourself if you knew what he did to get big.
I’ll give you a hint, it wasn’t drinking protein shakes.
…I know i let people down. I let myself down. I dont think you understand just how bad i wanted this. How long i worked for this. I dont think you understand how much disdain i have my for bodyfat. how disgusted i am when i look in the mirror. How ive poured my entirety into this. Ive been dieting for about 6 months now, dropping weight slowly. And i never complained. I sucked it up, said its what i had to do, and did it. I did my morning cardio. I drove my 20mins to the gym to do HIIT on my off days. I was in the gym every day for 2-3hrs training. You think i WANT to give up all of that? Throw my hard work to the wind for shits and giggles? Its fucking breaking my heart. But right now im dealing with Life. Im sorting out a career. It HAS to take priority. I dont have the energy to dedicate the time i need with this competition looming. I Cant juggle these things, ANd its fucking tearing me apart.
Yea, i go around offering advice where i can. Why? Why else would i be on a bodybuilding forum, because i want to learn and help others.
Yes, i feel like if anyone, ive let stu down. Ive apologize and stressed my deepest regrets at wasting his time. I received no reply from him. SO, i let it die there. I understand, i get it, i wrecked the great opportunity i had, i burned that bridge. Im not proud about that fact, but what the fuck i did what i had to do. its called being stuck between a rock and a hard place, either decision is going to be hard.
Did i drop ball when the going got tough? No, i didnt, because its all been tough. Not a god damn thing was easy for me. But i say this to you, and all others who care to remove their heads from their asses- THIS is not the end. THIS is not where i stop. I will continue, and i WILL get something Worthy of the title Bodybuilder.
It’s okay to fall off the wagon, just make sure to get back on.
Shit happens man, its life, different decisions at different times affect different outcomes. Although sometimes it MAY feel like it… it is NOT the end of the world! Keep up…
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
Yes, i feel like if anyone, ive let stu down. Ive apologize and stressed my deepest regrets at wasting his time. I received no reply from him. SO, i let it die there. I understand, i get it, i wrecked the great opportunity i had, i burned that bridge. Im not proud about that fact, but what the fuck i did what i had to do. its called being stuck between a rock and a hard place, either decision is going to be hard.
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Big Man,
While I am certainly a bit disappointed (you made so much progress and everyone was acknowledging it), I’m not one to chastise your decision. Of course I’m also not a cheerleader who needs to talk you into sticking it out if you have decided what course is best for your current situation. Anyone who has done, or even been close to someone else who has done preparation for a bodybuilding contest realizes that if you let it, it can totally take over your life.
My personal feelings about the gym, and this is especially true for my diet (moreso when I’m on a very strict, regimented program), is that it is the one area of my life where I am in total control. Of course just because I choose to embark on such an endeavor doesn’t mean that it needs to intrude into other aspects of my life. I do my best not even to acknowledge what I’m doing when I go out with my girlfriend, or other non-gym friends in social settings.
I do what I need to do in the gym, and eat when I need to eat when I’m out (carry my food at all times). I don’t ask for special treatment, I don’t expect people to be impressed with what I’m doing, hell, I hardly like talking about it (especially on low carb days). But most importantly, I realize that it’s just part of my commitments, and that I still need to get everything else that is expected and required of me done.
These days my own career is in a pretty questionable state. I still get up at 5am, take care of my dog, go to my day job, come home and take care of my neighbor’s and my dogs, train myself, train others, work on the few illustration jobs I’ve still been able to grab in this crappy economy, grab maybe 5 hours of sleep, and somewhere in there, answer various emails and PMs from people I’m prepping for shows as well as any T-Folk who write to me (and you guys on here know that I always answer any private messages sent), and spend quality time with my girlfriend (who while she understands my constant juggling act, I try not to bitch to her about it, it’s my burdeon, not hers).
Believe me, I have days when I just want everything to stop, but the thought that keeps me going, is how I’m going to look back on how I’m dealing with today’s stuff tomorrow. We all have situations in our past that we wish we had handled differently. I realize that. That’s why I always ask myself what the ‘Stu from the future’ would say to the ‘Stu of today’?
Would I smack myself in the face and say I was a Goddamn Pussy, or would I say “You really showed backbone brother, times were damn tough, and a lesser man would have looked for an easier path.” I certainly know what I’d like to think is the answer to that question.
This whole trip was in your hands. I can be the guide, but it’s up to you if you can do it, and up to you if you want to do it. If the other aspects of your life don’t make it easy, then it’s up to you to decide. That’s not my call. I applaude the progress you did make, 260 to 215 is nothing to f-ing sneeze at!
S
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
I can be the guide, but it’s up to you if you can do it, and up to you if you want to do it. If the other aspects of your life don’t make it easy, then it’s up to you to decide. That’s not my call. I applaude the progress you did make, 260 to 215 is nothing to f-ing sneeze at!
S[/quote]
Good old reliable Stu, thats why we love you so. 'Kuma, dont give up, we know ya got it in you. Just push forward, deal with life and then go for it! Besides any reference to others cutting, cant compare as most were much leaner and cut for a shorter time span. Your 6 months, slow gruelling cut, still brought results and now you know for the future how hard its going to be when you complete it successfully. Treat it as a learning curve not a failure. You only fail, if you don’t learn.
[quote]RobRaynerBB wrote:
You only fail, if you don’t learn. [/quote]
Hmm, I haven’t read that book yet, should probably pick it up.
Btw, motivational shit stu.