[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
So, if a human being is a product of rape or incest they are sub-human are allowed to be killed?[/quote]
No, not at all.
But, asking a woman to carry and birth a child begat from rape is an insanely difficult thing to ask/force her to do…
I ask, not as an appeal to emotion, but to get a better understanding of your persepctive: have you been with and cared for during pregnancy and infant stages, a woman you love?[/quote]
This is a rather weird way of putting it, but, if some evil asshole throws acid on your face, the effects do not just end with the culmination of the crime. You will be in excruciating pain for months, perhaps the rest of your life. You may, to some degree or even completely, lose your senses of sight, smell, taste, possibly even experience hearing loss. You will have problems eating, breathing. You may have immune system issues caused by the damage to your throat, eyes and sinuses. I haven’t even gotten into the shame and self-loathing you will experience as people now cross to the other side of the street when they see you walking toward them.
All of this is the result of that crime. After a rape, whether or not she becomes pregnant, a woman is going to also experience such unfortunate side effects. I know exactly what it’s like to be with a woman who is pregnant. My wife is at this very moment 8 months pregnant with our second son. It IS hard. She is VERY miserable a lot of the time. I can only imagine this would be FAR worse if she were a rape victim and the child inside of her was the product of that terrible crime.
However, by cutting the child out of her stomach, she is going to be doing nothing more than perpetuating the cycle of evil and violence and, yes, selfishness onto yet another helpless victim. Only her crime is actually worse, because at least she still gets to keep her life at the end of it all, as bad as it might be.
If abortion is wrong in any case, it must, necessarily, be wrong in every case. There ain’t no two ways about it. In order for the “only in the case of rape” argument to hold water, you STILL have to justify murder to make it work.
This applies all the way down the line, to all abortion arguments. I will demonstrate:
[i]If murder is the willful killing of another human being, and
If an unborn child is a human being, then the willful killing of that child is necessarily murder.
An unborn child is a human being.
Therefore, the willful killing of an unborn child is murder.[/i]
That’s it. Period. Doesn’t matter what the extraneous circumstances are or how sad and unfortunate her story is. The act is still an act of murder, and a good system of ethics and laws should not allow one crime to ameliorate the pains of another, particularly when the second crime is even more heinous than the first.
As I said, this syllogism works for any other abortion argument you can throw at it:
If it is wrong to abort an unborn child at more than three months, then it is wrong all the way back to the very moment of conception. Why? Because that child is a human organism. It just happens to be at an earlier stage of development than you or I have been blessed enough to have attained. Left alone, it contains within it all of the potential to become a fully grown, breathing, talking, internet argument having human being just as you and I have become.
Please understand I am NOT trying to be insensitive to women, here. I am taking up for the little ones, who have no voice of their own, who are just as human as any woman.
