Thank You, President Bush

Dishonorable Service

What happens to a general who turns a military detention camp into a center for the torment of prisoners, and then keeps exporting those vile practices to other U.S. prisons until their exposure sickens the world? If the general works under President Bush, he is whitewashed of any blame, protected from even the mildest reprimand, and, finally, retires honorably with the military?s highest noncombat medal pinned to his chest.

By now, we shouldn?t be all that surprised at the treatment of Maj. Gen. Geoffrey D. Miller, the Guant?namo Bay commandant who helped organize interrogation centers in Afghanistan and at Abu Ghraib.

After all, Mr. Bush has promoted the civilians who formulated the policies behind illegal detention and prisoner abuse. And he awarded the highest civilian honor to George Tenet, who either bungled the intelligence on Iraq or helped the White House hype it, and Paul Bremer, whose post-invasion mismanagement helped foment the bloody chaos in Iraq.

But there was something especially appalling about the ceremony on Monday in which General Miller got the Distinguished Service Medal in ? of all places ? the Pentagon?s Hall of Heroes. The medal is for ?exceptionally meritorious service to the government? beyond the performance of duty.

We hope the Pentagon had something in mind beyond putting prisoners into painful positions for hours or threatening them with German shepherds. Surely they were not thinking of naked men in pyramids or posed with electric wires on their genitals.

This sorry tale dishonors the real heroes. If the Pentagon wanted to honor them, it could have chosen the military lawyers who tried to stop the Bush administration from scrapping the Geneva Conventions and trying to put places like Guant?namo Bay beyond the rule of law. Or it could just look to the front line in Iraq, where heroes put their lives on the line every day ? and all too often lose them.

how dare you talk bad about our Commandar in chief in a time of war what are you a communist

Wreckless -
I do completely support the fact that Bush is an ignorant hick and has no business having a job that requires anything more than mopping a floor.

However, Geneva Conventions, rights, for alleged terrorists? Gimme a fucking break. It’s time we stop this pussy crap, seriously. “Well, they were in a desert shooting at our men, now we give them three meals a day and a roof above their head, let’s talk about rights.”

We should just try to get information from them and afterwards, whether failure or success, shoot them in the head. It’s a waste of our finances to even feed and shelter this scum. I hate how all these Amnesty International jerkoffs bitch about the rights of these assholes, who really cares?

You think they follow Geneva Conventions when they behead our men, torture, and kill them? I highly doubt that’s playing by the rules, why not go complain to them? Worry more about your fellow national citizens over the enemy we’re fighting; that’s what it boils down to. Fucking hippy

Is it your point in life to bash America, it’s allies and policies?

Relax and go eat some cheese with the whine you bring.

Boo-f’ing-hoo

The thing that really makes me happy is that Belgium is so scared of the USA. Remember their little “war crimes” legislation? When someone tried to sue US leaders, and the US gave them a harsh glance, the Belgians ran and cowered. Just continuing a pattern established for centuries?

Cowards!

[quote]ChuckyT wrote:
The thing that really makes me happy is that Belgium is so scared of the USA. Remember their little “war crimes” legislation? When someone tried to sue US leaders, and the US gave them a harsh glance, the Belgians ran and cowered. Just continuing a pattern established for centuries?

Cowards![/quote]

Belgium is just a bunch of fucking french cowards without the ability to make wine. But they do have a tasty waffle.

Abu Grahib should have poured liquified pork fat on those murderous fucks every day. Death is too easy on them.

Haven’t been around the political forums in a long, long time…and now I remember why. Later guys

[quote]rainjack wrote:
ChuckyT wrote:
The thing that really makes me happy is that Belgium is so scared of the USA. Remember their little “war crimes” legislation? When someone tried to sue US leaders, and the US gave them a harsh glance, the Belgians ran and cowered. Just continuing a pattern established for centuries?

Cowards!

Belgium is just a bunch of fucking french cowards without the ability to make wine. But they do have a tasty waffle.

Abu Grahib should have poured liquified pork fat on those murderous fucks every day. Death is too easy on them. [/quote]

What do you expect from a country with this as a national hero?

[quote]slimjim wrote:
Haven’t been around the political forums in a long, long time…and now I remember why. Later guys[/quote]

Buh-Bye…

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:

What do you expect from a country with this as a national hero?[/quote]

[intro]

Yeah. 40 oz. of malt liquor mmake me want to tell you somethin’.

(verse 1)

Rollin round, sittin on dubs. Countin the hours, was high on shrubs.

Coolin in my Escalade. Man I’m paid, I got it made!

Take me to your special place. Close your eyes, show me your face.

I’m gonna piss on it!

(chorus)

Haters wanna hate, lovers wanna love. I don’t even want none of the above.

I want to piss on you! Yes I do. I’ll piss on you; I’ll pee on you.

(verse 2)

Now your body, your body is a Porta-Potty.

And my pee I’d kick; like it know’s karate. (knows karate)

And you’ll never fell quite the same once u take a whiff of my Hershey stains.

I want to poop on u too. I want to pee in your food.

Only thing that make my life complete is when I turn your face into a toilet seat.

I’m gonna piss on you!

(chorus)

Before we start, I’m gonna fart. I’m gonna fart on you.

Let’s see, I guess we need to start calling this guy for advice on how best to handle our daily political affairs. I don’t know how the King of Belgium handles all of this responsibility. Good thing the whole place is about the size of Maryland.

What is the pattern of a normal working day in the life of the King ?

The King’s activities are very diverse, ranging from audiences at the Palace to state visits abroad.
The King’s working day normally starts at 9 a.m. By then, he has already looked at a number of files and preparatory documents, as well as the newspapers. The King comes from the Belv?d?re, his residence, to the Palace of Brussels, or he sets off for a destination in the provinces. His official office is at the Palace of Brussels. He consults his staff there, receives the Prime Minister, politicians, representatives of the business, social and cultural world, Heads of State as well as the credentials of Ambassadors. He grants collective audiences to deserving groups and signs many laws and royal decrees. Usually, the King does not leave the Palace before 1.30 p.m. After a brief lunch with the Queen at the Belv?d?re, he prepares his work for the next day based on information, notes and files and if time allows, relaxes through reading, walking, contacts with his family and friends, or goes for a ride by car or motor-bike.

[quote]Go-Rilla wrote:
Let’s see, I guess we need to start calling this guy for advice on how best to handle our daily political affairs. I don’t know how the King of Belgium handles all of this responsibility. Good thing the whole place is about the size of Maryland.

What is the pattern of a normal working day in the life of the King ?

The King’s activities are very diverse, ranging from audiences at the Palace to state visits abroad.
The King’s working day normally starts at 9 a.m. By then, he has already looked at a number of files and preparatory documents, as well as the newspapers. The King comes from the Belv?d?re, his residence, to the Palace of Brussels, or he sets off for a destination in the provinces. His official office is at the Palace of Brussels. He consults his staff there, receives the Prime Minister, politicians, representatives of the business, social and cultural world, Heads of State as well as the credentials of Ambassadors. He grants collective audiences to deserving groups and signs many laws and royal decrees. Usually, the King does not leave the Palace before 1.30 p.m. After a brief lunch with the Queen at the Belv?d?re, he prepares his work for the next day based on information, notes and files and if time allows, relaxes through reading, walking, contacts with his family and friends, or goes for a ride by car or motor-bike. [/quote]

It’s good to be the King.

[quote]Go-Rilla wrote:
Let’s see, I guess we need to start calling this guy for advice on how best to handle our daily political affairs. I don’t know how the King of Belgium handles all of this responsibility. Good thing the whole place is about the size of Maryland.

What is the pattern of a normal working day in the life of the King ?

The King’s activities are very diverse, ranging from audiences at the Palace to state visits abroad.
The King’s working day normally starts at 9 a.m. By then, he has already looked at a number of files and preparatory documents, as well as the newspapers. The King comes from the Belv?d?re, his residence, to the Palace of Brussels, or he sets off for a destination in the provinces. His official office is at the Palace of Brussels. He consults his staff there, receives the Prime Minister, politicians, representatives of the business, social and cultural world, Heads of State as well as the credentials of Ambassadors. He grants collective audiences to deserving groups and signs many laws and royal decrees. Usually, the King does not leave the Palace before 1.30 p.m. After a brief lunch with the Queen at the Belv?d?re, he prepares his work for the next day based on information, notes and files and if time allows, relaxes through reading, walking, contacts with his family and friends, or goes for a ride by car or motor-bike. [/quote]

My brothers wife is from Brussels.

We went for the wedding. We were wandering around one evening and she pointed out the palace.

I saw only one guard in front of the palace. He was wearing a fuzzy hat like they do at Buckingham but his was crooked and his uniform was sloppy.

It was quite a pathetic little spectacle.

They do have great beer though.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
He was wearing a fuzzy hat like they do at Buckingham but his was crooked and his uniform was sloppy.

It was quite a pathetic little spectacle.

They do have great beer though.[/quote]

LMAO!

I have never understood how somebody can see it as a natural state of things, that you have to defend the interests of your country thousands of miles outside of your borders. How have america come to such a situation, that it is necessary? It isn’t defence anymore, it’s superpower bullshit. You meddle with everything and everywhere. It is a sad story about how the hero gradually turned into a villain.
And no, I don’t think the fault is on
Bush particularly. I don’t believe your president, whoever it happens to be, has much to say, really.
Roosefelt saw the danger. You still don’t see it. Well, part of you do, but it’s not enough.

[quote]karva wrote:
I have never understood how somebody can see it as a natural state of things, that you have to defend the interests of your country thousands of miles outside of your borders. How have america come to such a situation, that it is necessary? It isn’t defence anymore, it’s superpower bullshit. You meddle with everything and everywhere. It is a sad story about how the hero gradually turned into a villain.
And no, I don’t think the fault is on
Bush particularly. I don’t believe your president, whoever it happens to be, has much to say, really.
Roosefelt saw the danger. You still don’t see it. Well, part of you do, but it’s not enough.[/quote]

Thomas Jefferson was the first American president that felt it was necessary to fight evil in North Africa. In that case it was piracy. At that point in time the US was not a world power.

Because the US fights international evil Finland and Belgium don’t have to.

The fact that you guys don’t understand reflects poorly on you.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:

Because the US fights international evil Finland and Belgium don’t have to.

The fact that you guys don’t understand reflects poorly on you.[/quote]

Finland and Belgium couldn’t if they had to.

[quote]karva wrote:
I have never understood how somebody can see it as a natural state of things, that you have to defend the interests of your country thousands of miles outside of your borders. How have america come to such a situation, that it is necessary? It isn’t defence anymore, it’s superpower bullshit. You meddle with everything and everywhere. It is a sad story about how the hero gradually turned into a villain.
And no, I don’t think the fault is on
Bush particularly. I don’t believe your president, whoever it happens to be, has much to say, really.
Roosefelt saw the danger. You still don’t see it. Well, part of you do, but it’s not enough.[/quote]

Roosevelt saw the danger? Would this be Teddy “GUNBOAT DIPLOMACY” Roosevelt or Frank “WAR ON SIX CONTINENTS” Roosevelt?

We tried to let the world run itself over and over. We disarmed almost completely after the Revolution, 1812, Mexican American War, Civil War, World War I, and went back to having almost no military and mostly staying out of other people’s business.

After the bloodbath FINLAND AND HER AXIS PALS (did you think we forgot whose side you fought on in World War II?) unleashed on the world we finally said “enough”. Funny how you idiots haven’t managed to start a world war with us paying attention.

Maybe if you assholes could control your urge to massacre everyone of a different skin color, ethnicity, language, political idealogy, religion, or last name we could go back to being non-interventionist and have nice and cheap militia. Since the European record of rapine, pillage, and empire (19th century) morphed into unimaginable bloody wars and genocide (20th century), you’re goddamned right we’re going to meddle.

Call us crazy, but with the blatant anti-semitism, refusal to meaningfully confront or even condemn tyrrany, prevent genocide (Bosnia), and your obviously racist treatment of the Turks, America is going to keep both eyes looking directly at Europe to make sure that your demonic tendencies don’t cause another outbreak of world war.

Speaking of heroes and villains, what the fuck has Finland ever done for anyone else in the world? I know you fought alongside the Nazis in World War II, which is an enormous black mark against your national character.
Let’s repeat that for all the kids new to Finnish history : FINLAND FOUGHT FOR THE AXIS IN WORLD WAR II.

Seriously, from what lofty plane does a Finn try to judge American foreign policy? I don’t see the Finns trying to keep the peace, feed the poor, or free anyone on the planet. Strangely, I haven’t heard how the Finns were going to ease the suffering in Lebanon by shipping in millions of dollars in humanitarian aid. I haven’t read much about Finns spending billions of dollars helping out people who hate them in Indonesia. How many Finns died trying to give democracies a fighting chance anywhere in the world?

How would the Finns be doing had America not sat on the goddamned wall for fifty years keeping the Soviets from finishing their 1944 campaign? Do you really think the Soviets would have respected your cowardly neutrality?

At least try to do something good or productive for someone else and then we can debate methods.

“I am ashamed of you! You let your enemies pray 5 times a day, give them food of their choice, have a Muslim chaplain there, even have your soldiers put on gloves before touching a Quran! I once killed an entire village in Czechoslovakia for killing my little Heydrich! I gave prisoners in my camps bread made with sawdust and vermin droppings! Some of my guards even used prisoners for target practice! And now I hear all you do is turn off the air conditioner! How pathetic! Hey, speaking of air conditioners, could you send me one (like you did for Saddam)? It is very hot down here!!”
— Adolf