I was recently on the internet and came across a web site called medicinecoach.com and I came across an article about using HCG and testosterone. In his article (Dr. Conner) says that HCG should be taken one week on and three weeks off.And on that one week take three times say MWF (.5ml).
Now I take it twice a week every week(.5ml). So I contacted Dr. Conner and asked him why one week a month and he said that using HCG regularly over time will desensitize the Leydig cells to your own LH. So when you stop the HCG, your testicles will not recognize the LH (leutenizing hormone)signal from your brainâ?¦not good. So I now have a call into my doctor to see what gives because he is the one that told me to go ahead with the shots twice a week.
Just looking for some input from you gents and what your thoughts are.
Thanks
Dant52
The down side to that protocol is that if I was doing it I would have to pay $150 for that one week and throw away 95% of the vial since it’s only good for 30 days. I could only find vials of 10,000 units. If you can get one of those kits of 3/2,000 units I’ve seen sold in the US then at least you’re only throwing away like $40/month. When I get my hCG I plan to freeze it and hope it works. I just want enough to keep my testes at a normal size.
Does anyone have any real proof of desensitization? I hear lots of people talk about it, but it never made sense to me. If you’re taking just enough HCG to keep your boys full and dangling, how is that any different than a healthy HPTA? I was taking 500IU every day for a few weeks, 500IU twice a week for quite awhile before that. When I switched to a SERM my boys had no problem producing.
I’m no doctor, buy my spidey sense tells me 250-500IU a couple times a week isn’t going do any harm. Plus, if you really need testosterone, why the hell would you care about the effect of LH on your nuts?
As a point of reference, 500IU of HCG produced about the same T as an LH reading towards the top of the normal range. For me 500IU wasn’t stimulating my testes any more than a healthy LH level.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
As a point of reference, 500IU of HCG produced about the same T as an LH reading towards the top of the normal range. For me 500IU wasn’t stimulating my testes any more than a healthy LH level.[/quote]
I don’t mean to sound stupid but I take .5ml of hgc twice a week. Im assuming and I could be wrong is that equivalent to 500IU.
dhickey, I agree with you. I tend to think that desensitization is a result of those 1000-2000iu doses. I’m pretty sure that long-term hCG dosing is not really a common protocol and that physicians are prescribing much more in the studies I’ve seen where desensitization was brought up.
[quote]dant52 wrote:
I don’t mean to sound stupid but I take .5ml of hgc twice a week. Im assuming and I could be wrong is that equivalent to 500IU. [/quote]
Not necessarily. It all depends on how much bacteriostatic water you used to reconstitute the dry proteins. Normally you’ll start with a vial of say 2000, 5000, or 10000 units and add however many mL’s of water to make a logical volume. For instance if you’re dose were 5000iu’s such as that of a woman trying to ovulate it would be impractical to mix your 10000iu’s with 10mL. The dose would be 5mLs and would require at least 2 sites to administer.
Anyway, for the sake of medication safety a 10:1 mixture is safer than say a 2:1 or 5:1 mixture because errors in calculation are common. Insulins are measured in units and to avoid errors they make it 100 units/1mL. If the bottles diabetics bought could be 200iu/mL one week and 100iu/mL the next, there would be a LOT of dead diabetics.
You don’t have cycle that. Just take it twice a week, every week. You could try a smaller dose if you wanted. As long as the boys are full and dangling, you’re probably fine.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
You don’t have cycle that. Just take it twice a week, every week. You could try a smaller dose if you wanted. As long as the boys are full and dangling, you’re probably fine.[/quote]