Tone, I’m really interested to see how the addition of primobolan works with your test/tren. When are you starting your cycle?
JR
[quote]Jelly Roll wrote:
Tone, I’m really interested to see how the addition of primobolan works with your test/tren. When are you starting your cycle?
JR[/quote]
If my schedule permits, it will be sometime towards the end of next week, or into the week after that.
I’ve been training with another very cool routine I had Schwarz work on for me while he has been in recovery from the shoulder surgery. It was something I asked him to make for hypertrophy gains first and foremost. I have tweaked it over the last couple weeks to enhance it for my body and my one remaining bad delt. I am really excited though, and it’s quite unique and impressive to me. Similar to the one I used on my last shorty with the box squats, and delt rehab stuff, only now I’ve been doing more chest work and changed some of the delt stuff and added in more band work as well.
Chest is finally coming along and tightening back up to where it used to be before it atrophied during the delt rehab process. I was up to using +55 lbs on deep dips but then the one delt took a shit on me again, so I’ve gone back, rehabbed all over again, and am keeping it in the “green zone” so to speak as far as the healthy ROM for it during benching and other things involving the delts.
I’ve gone on way too long here, lol…
Anyway, I too am very keyed up to see how some real bonafide ass kicking Primo adds to the gains without adding to any sides. Been waiting an awful long time to get a hold of some, and finally am ready to give it a solid run at a high end dose.
Thanks for the five star treatment guys!
It’s because of all the great posters and a decent topic.
best,
ToneBone
So if I read correctly, all you fellas are running an 8 weeker of tren and test? Some of you with other compounds as well…
Hmm,sounds like some good shit and nearly identical to what I did recently.
One question I forgot to ask-- what’s everyone doing for your PCT?
Personally I did a taper-- 4 weeks of stasis, and 4 weeks of taper, so the same length as my cycle. Currently I have three weeks of taper left with enan. I must say it is going absolutely marvelous.
I ask about your PCT mainly because of the fact it seems to be common belief that tren can really shut you down hard. Using myself as an example, I would have to disagree because of the measures I have taken with my taper. However, I do believe a conventional PCT of nolva or clomid would leave quite a bit to be desired. Your thoughts gentelmen?
And also, if you so choose to do a taper, do you predict running it with enan or prop? And will you be using a SERM or masteron in addition?
Yes, this post is rather all over the place seeing how I’m dead tired. We had an earthquake last night around 0400 and another one around 0930. Never did get back to sleep seeing how it’s the first one I have ever experenced.
Anyways, I think these are important questions everyone needs to have decided long before the cycle is anywhere near complete.
Your thoughts?
World
World,
I ran a 12 week cycle, test-enanthate/tren-acetate for weeks 1-8, then just test-enanthate for the remaining weeks 9-12.
I’m in week 3 of my stasis right now and I feel great as well. My PCT is pretty close to yours, 4 weeks stasis and 4 weeks taper, except I ran some HCG in weeks 9 and 10 while on cycle. Mostly as an experiment to see if it made any difference in my PCT.
Regarding SERM’s, I’m going to use nolva for the final week of my taper (20mg ED) and the following week (10mg ED).
World, I’ve never heard about using masteron during PCT, and I’m very interested in how/why/when you would run it. Could you give us your take on it?
Jelly
[quote]Jelly Roll wrote:
World,
I ran a 12 week cycle, test-enanthate/tren-acetate for weeks 1-8, then just test-enanthate for the remaining weeks 9-12.
I’m in week 3 of my stasis right now and I feel great as well. My PCT is pretty close to yours, 4 weeks stasis and 4 weeks taper, except I ran some HCG in weeks 9 and 10 while on cycle. Mostly as an experiment to see if it made any difference in my PCT.
Regarding SERM’s, I’m going to use nolva for the final week of my taper (20mg ED) and the following week (10mg ED).
World, I’ve never heard about using masteron during PCT, and I’m very interested in how/why/when you would run it. Could you give us your take on it?
Jelly
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I’ve read up on the masteron idea idea. Basically then your stasis and taper is just half as much test, the missing portion being replaced by masteron.
Personally, I’ve never used it. The only individual I know that has, I believe, is FuriousGeorge. I do recall he said his recovery was a bit rocky. That being said though-- he came off for the first time in 6 months and did a dosing schedule that would have been better fitted for an 8 week cycle.
It would be quite interesting to hear about and compare to the test only taper. I’d love to try it, only problem being that I won’t be running a cycle for at least another year, if not longer. During that time I will be doing some significant experimenting with peptides-- mainly IGF.
Would any of the current test and trenners care to run a mast/test recovery? Of course then again, the individual would have needed to also done a test only taper so as to have something to compare to. Not to mention the fact they’d need to be willing to experiment. Any takers?
World
[quote]World1187 wrote:
Jelly Roll wrote:
World,
I ran a 12 week cycle, test-enanthate/tren-acetate for weeks 1-8, then just test-enanthate for the remaining weeks 9-12.
I’m in week 3 of my stasis right now and I feel great as well. My PCT is pretty close to yours, 4 weeks stasis and 4 weeks taper, except I ran some HCG in weeks 9 and 10 while on cycle. Mostly as an experiment to see if it made any difference in my PCT.
Regarding SERM’s, I’m going to use nolva for the final week of my taper (20mg ED) and the following week (10mg ED).
World, I’ve never heard about using masteron during PCT, and I’m very interested in how/why/when you would run it. Could you give us your take on it?
Jelly
I’ve read up on the masteron idea idea. Basically then your stasis and taper is just half as much test, the missing portion being replaced by masteron.
Personally, I’ve never used it. The only individual I know that has, I believe, is FuriousGeorge. I do recall he said his recovery was a bit rocky. That being said though-- he came off for the first time in 6 months and did a dosing schedule that would have been better fitted for an 8 week cycle.
It would be quite interesting to hear about and compare to the test only taper. I’d love to try it, only problem being that I won’t be running a cycle for at least another year, if not longer. During that time I will be doing some significant experimenting with peptides-- mainly IGF.
Would any of the current test and trenners care to run a mast/test recovery? Of course then again, the individual would have needed to also done a test only taper so as to have something to compare to. Not to mention the fact they’d need to be willing to experiment. Any takers?
World[/quote]
Hey good points World,
I’d like to give the taper a go here, with or without the mast, both sound superb compared to the ol nolva pct. I’ll have to wait and see at that point what route I travel though. Thanks for the idea buddy.
Maybe we could have a comparison amongst the guys.
ToneBone