Thanks for the advice Brook. Unfortunately, I don’t have any Nolva so I would have to get some.
I called the blood lab today and the test numbers are still not in. I would not be surprised in the least if the testing was never actually done as it has never taken more than 1 week before for results and now it is almost 3 weeks. I will call again tomorrow and press for awnsers.
I am not too concerned with the sides that will come from staying on too long as my own production has been weak for the last several years (free T consistently low; total T not bad; E2 OK; SHBG elevated).
What I would like even more is to actually experience the boost that many speak of when they describe their experiences with testosterone.
Yes, in answer to your question, I did receive an international package yesterday. I will have to pick it up next week. Maybe Wednesday.
I called the blood lab again this morning and was assured the test will be eventually be completed. I was told that it depends on how many requests for testoterone they receive in any given period. They only test when they have a sufficient batch to justify the expense of the analysis.
I should have my new gear this evening ahead of shedule. Now, the question is what to do?
Option 1: Wait interminably for my Nov. 3rd blood results and then make another trek to the hospital after work one day and then proceed according to indicated free T level.
Option 2: Start using test prop so that if my current test e is bunk, I won’t have to wait for the long ester to kick in.
Option 3: Start using new test e and see if I notice any difference,
Option 4: Do a test taper with the prop and eventually clear my system of all the compounds I have been using (dbol weeks ago, test e, proviron, hCG, adex). Once stabilized go to see the endocrinologist I was recently referred to for HRT.
Hmm… the sensible option may not be the one i am going to choose BUT… i would like to see you start in the prop. I know that prop kicks in the same week, and if front-loaded just a little i feel it the next day.
I would like to see you do that to finanny assess whether it is the lack of AAS that have you feeling like you do or if it isnt related.
Plus if you dont feel 75-100mg/d of decent test then you arent going to feel anything. Ever!
On a sensible note… it might be wise to go and recover 100% before using again. you have been on a while, cut your losses - you HAVE gained actually) and recover so your endo system has a chance at independance.
Thanks for sharing your alternatives. Both are interesting.
I injected another round of my old gear this morning and there are 2 ml remaining.
My friend picked up my new gear yesterday and I’ll get it from him later today.
I’ll see how I feel, but I could always tack on an additional 2 weeks to my original 10 week cycle which is scheduled to end in 3 days. That way I could see how I react to the prop and then use it to taper.
What would be the initial dosage to front load the prop?
I made my decision today. I decided to go with a two week tack-on of test prop. I frontloaded 250mg a few minutes ago and it went in very smooth. I did 1/2 in the left quad and 1/2 in the right. I will do 75mg per day for 13 days to finish off the two weeks. Then I will do 4 weeks of 100mg and 6 weeks taper 80/60/50/40/30/20. I may have to buy an amp from my local guy to finish the taper. It feels good to have broken the logjam of indecision.
-There was a delayed dull pain and stiffness at the two quad injection sites from yesterday morning. Enough that my gait is noticeably stiff. It started in the evening around 6 hours or so after injection.
-I tossed and turned last night. I don’t know if it was because my mind was working overtime or because I went to bed too early?
-I injected what will be my normal daily dose of 75mg (0.75ml) today into right pec and all went well, but I am sure the soreness will set in later.
-I upped Adex dosage from 0.25mg E3D with Test E to 0.25mg EOD now.
-Morale is good although I do feel the lack of sleep.
I was planning on doing some squats today after work. I’ll see how that goes.
Because I front loaded with 250mg test prop on first inject yesterday.
Because I suspect the test e I was using was severely underdosed so the prop will be a shock on my system.
Because I had just done my last shot of 1ml (250mg) test e the day before front loading the prop at 250mg.
It seems it was a wise decision. I am 4 lbs heavier today than last week. I did have 1 cheat meal over the weekend so it could be partially that, but I suspect I am rapidly rapidly bloating. That doesn’t bother me too much as long as the strength gains come with it.
I trained today and the squats were rough with the injection pain. I did glute-ham raises too. The rest was upper body. Training was more driven than it has been of late. It did help to get a compliment from a trainer bud that my squats were ass to the grass.
I’ll keep logging observations. So far my pec doesn’t hurt yet. Some say that the quad is particularly prone to pain from prop. We’ll see. Tomorrow I’m going ventrogluteal. I will have to get creative on sites and go back to delts and glutes maybe to spread them out.
I’ll keep logging observations. So far my pec doesn’t hurt yet. Some say that the quad is particularly prone to pain from prop. We’ll see. Tomorrow I’m going ventrogluteal. I will have to get creative on sites and go back to delts and glutes maybe to spread them out.[/quote]
Quads are my favorite place to do injections but I will not be putting prop in them anymore. I’ve used glute, ventroglute and quads so far. I’ve gotten a little pain in all places, but the pain in the quad actually messed with my ability to fully flex/contract the muscles while the oil was in there. I may just rotate between the glutes and ventroglute from here on out.
I hear you. I am in no rush to get back to the quads either. Does it get better? The dose will be smaller - 0.75ml instead of the 1.25ml I shot in each quad for the frontload.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
I hear you. I am in no rush to get back to the quads either. Does it get better? The dose will be smaller - 0.75ml instead of the 1.25ml I shot in each quad for the frontload.[/quote]
Well I am only 7 injections in so I’ve only just repeated a site for the first time. I am injecting 2mls a time though, which is going to cause more pain than a smaller injection.
When i pinned quads (both left and right) i was sore for 4 days. I couldn’t walk on the pinned leg. I don’t know why that happened but i’m tempted to go back to try it again.
quads are the most fickle muscles to inject in! IME i will ahve several times with ZERO pain or discomfort and then the next time will feel like i got shot in the muscle! Even moving over a mere cm can cause a ridiculous amount of change. JME
I just got lousy news. I called the blood lab to see if the testosterone results from Nov. 7 were finally ready and it is as I suspected. They neglected to request that particular lab and then requested it 2 weeks later only to be told the remaining blood sample was too small.
They offered for me to return and not have to wait in line, but what they fail to understand is they have stolen from me any possibility of assessing whether the test e I was using was any good since I have now started using prop. What a f’ing pain in the ass!!