Hi to all!
Anyone have direct experience of TBOL use (60mg/ED x 6week) during hipocaloric diet?
the “idea” is to use it to prevent lean mass catabolism and to strenght loss…
I have also thought to stack it with some stimulant like ECA.
[quote]cadav wrote:
Hi to all!
Anyone have direct experience of TBOL use (60mg/ED x 6week) during hipocaloric diet?
the “idea” is to use it to prevent lean mass catabolism and to strenght loss…
I have also thought to stack it with some stimulant like ECA.[/quote]
I used half that for a month. When I use any more than 30mg/d, I start to cramp when I run. Most of the time was just below caloric maintenence. I found I was actually able to gain a little lean mass, strength went up noticeably that my sprint starts were much better. For fat loss though, it is not as good as anavar in my opinion. I have taken similar doses of anavar under similar conditions and results were similar strength and performance wise, but with a little more fat loss.
You may run into the dreaded back pumps at that dosage, most people just cut the dose until they don’t experience this. In my case this is going from 40mg/d to 30.
So you think that anavar (alone) is better than tbol (alone) in a cutting training?
what i’m looking for is a drug that help me to keep performance and lean mass. Any improvement is good also 
[quote]cadav wrote:
Hi to all!
Anyone have direct experience of TBOL use (60mg/ED x 6week) during hipocaloric diet?
the “idea” is to use it to prevent lean mass catabolism and to strenght loss…
I have also thought to stack it with some stimulant like ECA.[/quote]
Weird. For some reason, this exact question popped into my head driving home today. Hopefully someone can answer, or even say if this would be better than anavar for you goals…
[quote]cadav wrote:
So you think that anavar (alone) is better than tbol (alone) in a cutting training?
what i’m looking for is a drug that help me to keep performance and lean mass. Any improvement is good also
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in my experience they have both provided the results you are looking for. the anavar seems to lean me out quite drastically. the tbol less so. the results will be quite similar otherwise and the two go nicely together too.
[quote]ubl0 wrote:
in my experience they have both provided the results you are looking for. the anavar seems to lean me out quite drastically. the tbol less so. the results will be quite similar otherwise and the two go nicely together too.[/quote]
together? in wich doses? 30/30 ed?
and can i ask you at which %bf do you have used it?
thanks
[quote]cadav wrote:
together? in wich doses? 30/30 ed?
and can i ask you at which %bf do you have used it?
thanks[/quote]
i tried 30/30 var/tbol and 30/20 and 20/30 also in addition to using them alone between 20mg and up to 80mg/d for the var. every time i try to take the tbol over 30mg/d i experience tighness and cramping when i run, so i have not pushed the dosage above this point with the tbol.
have used the two compounds at points anywhere from 10-18% bf. the results in terms of fat loss, performance and muscle gain were similar for all cycles with a little more fat loss when anavar was used. using the two compounds together at 30/30 seemed to give me a better effect than 80mg of var in terms of sprint starts (i usually notice these effects within a couple days of commencing a cycle).