I have some Tbol that I bought a while back because I received some exclusive pricing and figured I’d use it sometime. It’s liquid 60 ml 50mg/ml… I’m debating on whether I should use it as a standalone or not use it at all. This would be my fourth AAS cycle.
Now I know I will receive some flack for wanting to run an Oral only cycle again…but there’s actually no scientific basis on being able to retain more gains while running an oral with a test base… after all unless it’s gained naturally, muscle gained is muscle gained… the test would not affect the after effects of a cycle… If you disagree I’d like to hear why…I’m guessing it’s because you were advised not to run an oral only by some forum guru but not given a valid explanation…
I would probably do 8 weeks at 50mg/ed or 6 weeks at 66.7 mg/ed (obvs not that exact)
Cycle history:
Omnadren 500mg/ew 10 weeks
Anavar alone 50mg/ed 6 weeks
Test E 500mg/ed 12 weeks with Dbol but i can’t remember dosage. I had to cut this cycle short due to me contracting cellulitis from a botched injection and I found out I was allergic to the ethyl oleate the Test E was based with.
I’ve also experimented with GHRP-6 and SARMS like Ostarine and S4 (Andarine)
and PPARMS like GW-501516
and a little Albuterol…
I’ve done a standalone tbol cycle, just a few months ago in fact. I only did 3 weeks because I’ve been playing around with repeated short cycles. I did 40mg/day for three weeks, then just last week finished another short one where I did winny and tbol for three weeks plus test/tren/mast for two.
Tbol alone, you won’t see a lot. I only did 3 weeks, so at 8 weeks you should see more than I did. Back pumps were shitty. On 40mg/ed, 4-5gm taurine helped on those days where the lower back took a bigger beating. On 60mg/ed (which I just finished, plus the other stuff), taurine wouldn’t even touch it. You are planning just tbol at 50mg/ed, definitely keep some taurine handy and take it before lower body workouts.
The rest of it, I leaned out a little and put on a little size (again, only 3 weeks). Definitely saw more aggression in the gym but can’t speak to strength gains in that short a time period. I would tear through a workout that normally took an hour in 40-45 minutes. That was a good benefit, in my opinion. Also, tbol is a mild suppressant. After three weeks, I only took 20mg/day Nolva for a week and saw no issues. Probably could have gone without it, but was a little nervous to do that. Didn’t take an AI, since everything says this stuff doesn’t aromatize, and again, saw no issues.
Good luck bro, sorry for the rambling post. You should have no problem seeing decent gains (as long as you aren’t expecting too much) with no real side effects. I have enough tbol to run another stand alone cycle in the future at some point - didn’t see any added benefit to taking it with my current injectables so I won’t do that again.
[quote]boatguy wrote:
I’ve done a standalone tbol cycle, just a few months ago in fact. I only did 3 weeks because I’ve been playing around with repeated short cycles. I did 40mg/day for three weeks, then just last week finished another short one where I did winny and tbol for three weeks plus test/tren/mast for two.
Tbol alone, you won’t see a lot. I only did 3 weeks, so at 8 weeks you should see more than I did. Back pumps were shitty. On 40mg/ed, 4-5gm taurine helped on those days where the lower back took a bigger beating. On 60mg/ed (which I just finished, plus the other stuff), taurine wouldn’t even touch it. You are planning just tbol at 50mg/ed, definitely keep some taurine handy and take it before lower body workouts.
The rest of it, I leaned out a little and put on a little size (again, only 3 weeks). Definitely saw more aggression in the gym but can’t speak to strength gains in that short a time period. I would tear through a workout that normally took an hour in 40-45 minutes. That was a good benefit, in my opinion. Also, tbol is a mild suppressant. After three weeks, I only took 20mg/day Nolva for a week and saw no issues. Probably could have gone without it, but was a little nervous to do that. Didn’t take an AI, since everything says this stuff doesn’t aromatize, and again, saw no issues.
Good luck bro, sorry for the rambling post. You should have no problem seeing decent gains (as long as you aren’t expecting too much) with no real side effects. I have enough tbol to run another stand alone cycle in the future at some point - didn’t see any added benefit to taking it with my current injectables so I won’t do that again.[/quote]
Thanks brother, I thought the back pumps were bad with var, can’t even imagine with tbol
I’ve done about 3 stand alone cycles with Turinabol. The key is getting a good lab and dosage. I saw great gains in strength and my muscle composition changed a lot through out my 6 week cycle on 50mg ed. I’ve also run it at 60mg for 6 weeks with no problems but I think 50 is the highest I would go because its all you really need for what it is. Great compound doesn’t aromatize or convert to DHT so its safer on the hairloss if your prone. Pumps were good.
-Most importantly your results on tbol only will depend on your current bf%, muscle tone, training experience, diet including water intake. I already had low 9-10% bf before I ran so the results were much more noticeable. And yes It will still shut you down so you do require a PCT.
T-Bol is highly suppressive of the HPTA. It should be run with an aromatizing steroid, like test, or minimal doses of HCG (750 mg/wk). The East Germans wrote the book on T-Bol cycling, and they ran it with an aromatizing agent like test, usually with a blast of HCG the last few weeks of the cycle.
http://www.clinchem.org/content/43/7/1262.full