[quote]michael2507 wrote:
johnnytang24 wrote:
There’s a video of one of the wrestlers supposedly benching over 700lbs raw.
That was Adolfo Bresciano (aka Dino Bravo) who benched what was said to be 710 pounds with Jesse Ventura as a spotter. [/quote]
I REMEMBER THAT! One of the best moments of my childhood…
I will probably never bench 600 lbs. but that is crazy nonetheless…
Tank started losing cuz he has too much pride to beat an opponent on the ground…he’s either going to knock you out, or lose…check any of his losses…I love and think that is the way UFC should fight…the earlier days…
I wouldn’t think too many guys out there bench over 400 lbs. in the UFC…he’s a freak…
[quote]jdavis2007 wrote:
I wouldn’t think too many guys out there bench over 400 lbs. in the UFC…he’s a freak…[/quote]
yeah, they’re too busy developing their ground skills, ha!
If he devolped his ground skills and kept getting stronger he would have been the best at the time.
I have no idea if the weight was 600 pounds or not. But, it’s certainly not out of the question for a guy his size to be able to bench that amount of weight. Tank was weighing in around 285 at the time. I have seen people almost double their body weight bench before.
[quote]John S. wrote:
If he devolped his ground skills and kept getting stronger he would have been the best at the time.[/quote]
That’s a pretty naive statement.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
John S. wrote:
If he devolped his ground skills and kept getting stronger he would have been the best at the time.
That’s a pretty naive statement.[/quote]
Not really.
He came very close to beating Don Frye (who was considered the best at the time).
The only knock on him was his poor conditioning and weak ground game.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
John S. wrote:
If he devolped his ground skills and kept getting stronger he would have been the best at the time.
That’s a pretty naive statement.[/quote]
I think he meant “best in HIS time” not best of ALL time. While I have no idea if what he said was true, MMA has come a long ways in the last 10 years and the talent level was a lot lower back then. Royce Gracie would be a nobody today
[quote]FrontFaceLock wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
John S. wrote:
If he devolped his ground skills and kept getting stronger he would have been the best at the time.
That’s a pretty naive statement.
Not really.
He came very close to beating Don Frye (who was considered the best at the time).
The only knock on him was his poor conditioning and weak ground game.
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I’ll give you that. I guess it just depends on what you consider “his time”, because the poor bastard is still fighting.
I was implying at the hight of his fame if he worked ground he could have been the best then. Right now its no question that Fedor is the best.
oh and ive seen bars bend with 405 on them. that wasnt a comp bar it was a regular gym bar it happens all the time.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
FrontFaceLock wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
John S. wrote:
If he devolped his ground skills and kept getting stronger he would have been the best at the time.
That’s a pretty naive statement.
Not really.
He came very close to beating Don Frye (who was considered the best at the time).
The only knock on him was his poor conditioning and weak ground game.
I’ll give you that. I guess it just depends on what you consider “his time”, because the poor bastard is still fighting.[/quote]
Good point.
I still kind of admire him for still fighting at his age and with his limited arsenal though.
He’s a true fighter, if not a true mixed martial artist.
[quote]Rusty Barbell wrote:
Yea I never understood how he could do that. He doesn’t have much definition at all. You would think someone who can bench 600 lbs would at least have some triceps to show you. He’s just got some big saggy boobs… maybe that’s what all the PLifters here should go for, it obviously works for Tank. Big saggy boobs, no arms or abs = big bench.[/quote]
He has huge arms. He lacks definition because he is fat.
[quote]FrontFaceLock wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
John S. wrote:
If he devolped his ground skills and kept getting stronger he would have been the best at the time.
That’s a pretty naive statement.
Not really.
He came very close to beating Don Frye (who was considered the best at the time).
The only knock on him was his poor conditioning and weak ground game.
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He also came very close to beating Oleg Taktarov. Tank made it to the finals on several occasions.
Tank is still one of my favorites. He seemed to need no recognition and always had a strong sense of wit!
And the way he threw around some VERY big guys in the octagon like they were weightless, makes me believe that he really did bench 600.
Tank beat a bunch of nobodies. Against serious competition he did very poorly, case in point Dan Severn (raped by Freddy Mercury), Maurice Smith, Vitor Belfort, Pedro Rizzo, etc.
Frye and Takatarov were much smaller than him. Frye made the mistake of trying to box him. Even Hugo Duarte took him down and had his back in about 30 seconds before he went for a fancy arm bar and got hammered.
He had basic boxing and wrestling and a lot of strength, but little in the way of heart or conditioning.
[quote]Get this wrote:
Tank beat a bunch of nobodies. Against serious competition he did very poorly, case in point Dan Severn (raped by Freddy Mercury), Maurice Smith, Vitor Belfort, Pedro Rizzo, etc.
Frye and Takatarov were much smaller than him. Frye made the mistake of trying to box him. Even Hugo Duarte took him down and had his back in about 30 seconds before he went for a fancy arm bar and got hammered.
He had basic boxing and wrestling and a lot of strength, but little in the way of heart or conditioning.
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That’s true. But his lack of heart was also a lack of fear, because he would fight at the last minute if he was called, even when not conditioned. On many of his fights he simply wasn’t prepared.
Maybe that is what I find impressive about him. He didn’t care if he won or lost as much as he just liked to fight. He had nothing to prove.
I still like him. He was smart enough to use those gloves long before anyone else figured out how much harder you can hit.
The movement of the weights and the bar doesnt look right to me. Also 600 pounds is a lot to bounce of your chest.