Oh yeah, Europeans are known for not starting wars.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Oh yeah, Europeans are known for not starting wars.[/quote]
We grew out of it.
For you it is one of the things that is built into the system and keeps the empire going.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Oh yeah, Europeans are known for not starting wars.[/quote]
We grew out of it.
For you it is one of the things that is built into the system and keeps the empire going.
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Sorry, for encouraging this sidetrack to the thread, but Europe has simply outsourced their war machine to us. When I did ops in Somalia and Kenya, German construction projects prospered. When we quelled the rebellion in East Timor, Singapore, Australia, and the petroleum industry benefited. I won’t even get into “the war on terror.” The “modern” nations of the World form a combined social paradigm enforced by U.S. guns. Get the fuck off your high horse. You benefit from our murders and our blood.
[quote]Nancy Boy wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Oh yeah, Europeans are known for not starting wars.[/quote]
We grew out of it.
For you it is one of the things that is built into the system and keeps the empire going.
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Sorry, for encouraging this sidetrack to the thread, but Europe has simply outsourced their war machine to us. When I did ops in Somalia and Kenya, German construction projects prospered. When we quelled the rebellion in East Timor, Singapore, Australia, and the petroleum industry benefited. I won’t even get into “the war on terror.” The “modern” nations of the World form a combined social paradigm enforced by U.S. guns. Get the fuck off your high horse. You benefit from our murders and our blood.
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Maybe, but those are windfall profits and our society does not depend on keeping an uneasy truce between the welfare and the warfare state.
We are firmly on the side of the welfare state which might have its disadvantages but invading third world nations to blow off some steam is not among them.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
[quote]wigsa wrote:
Eh,can you point to a socialist government in Europe,please??[/quote]
The French economy is a good example of socialism run amuk. And it’s not a model most Americans aspire to. [/quote]
You do realise Sarkozy defeated the socialist party to get elected??What the fuck are you talking about??
[quote]wigsa wrote:
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
[quote]wigsa wrote:
Eh,can you point to a socialist government in Europe,please??[/quote]
The French economy is a good example of socialism run amuk. And it’s not a model most Americans aspire to. [/quote]
You do realise Sarkozy defeated the socialist party to get elected??What the fuck are you talking about??[/quote]
You do not like to look deeper than the labels, do you?
If all the Socialist Countries keep going the way they are, and Germany bails them all out. Would Germany own most of Europe?
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
If all the Socialist Countries keep going the way they are, and Germany bails them all out. Would Germany own most of Europe?[/quote]
WHAT FUCKING SOCIALIST COUNTRIES??
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Oh yes, I can’t wait for government controlled health care. [/quote]
This freedom has been lost already: http://community.wddty.com/forums/thread/10360.aspx
I was informed by the owners of my health food store, who told me they will likely be closing down when this law becomes effective, that companies like Biotest will have to pay a license of 100.000 GBP per supplement to sell in the UK. Whilst pharmaceutical giants like Glaxo Smith Kline - improving health and quality of life - can continue to do more to save us from ourselves.
Extract from above link:
"She believes that pressure from UK & EU Regulators is all part of a hidden agenda by the â??powers that beâ?? to prevent the sale of large numbers of food supplements, herbal and other natural products. â??Itâ??s hard to find any justification other than the elimination of competition by destroying health businesses to secure maximum profits for the pharmaceutical industry.
Her own business was directly affected this year, when the â??Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agencyâ?? (MHRA) forced her to stop the production and sells of a unique herbal product, which in 2008 was approved by the Public Health Minister for use in hospitals and hospices. Dounne believes that it could be one of the most innovative British products, with extraordinary health benefits ranging from cancer, heart disease, strokes, seizures, diabetes, high blood pressure, incontinence, food poisoning, allergies, skin disorders and lots more.
Therefore, she is currently challenging the MHRAâ??s decision that her product is a â??medicineâ?? and not a â??herbal food supplementâ??. This has nothing to do with safety or effectiveness but all about obtaining a â??medical licenseâ?? costing up to £250,000. Hundreds of similar businesses are being challenged all over Europe by what looks set to be the most restrictive regulatory system ever witnessed in the Western world.
Furthermore, laws such as the 1939 Cancer Act was created to prevent the public from being informed about any natural product that is beneficial for cancer. Even when proven safe, effective or if scientific evidence exists, it is a criminal offence to produce, promote or sell it to cancer sufferers. Therefore, people are suffering and dying needlessly from treatable conditions like heart disease, diabetes, HIV/AIDS and cancer.
Apart from withholding such vital â??life savingâ?? information; healthcare practitioners are also being fined, imprisoned or both for restoring health by natural meansâ??. Dounne says, â?? As cancer is now affecting 1 in 3 of the UK population, then the likelihood of one member in every family falling prey to this dreadful disease is extremely highâ??. So she asked the MEPs â??What would you do when it touches you or yours? OR how would you feel if a loved-one who has diedâ?¦ could have possibly been saved?â??
The MHRA have more powers than the police and are raiding and confiscating products from legitimate practitioners, hence driving natural healthcare underground. This means that our freedom to choose or to take responsibility of our own lives is being taken-away.
â??To make matters worse, information is being deliberately withheld from the general public to avoid resistance. The truth is incredibly disturbing. What appears on the surface to be â??consumer health protectionâ?? behind the scenes is actually â??legalised health suicideâ??. But the scariest part of it is that majority of UK citizens do not know or realise that we need to ACT NOW!â??
[quote]wigsa wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
If all the Socialist Countries keep going the way they are, and Germany bails them all out. Would Germany own most of Europe?[/quote]
WHAT FUCKING SOCIALIST COUNTRIES??[/quote]
Label v. substance. Think about it.
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
This freedom has been lost already: http://community.wddty.com/forums/thread/10360.aspx
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Depressing. Let’s hope the UK undergoes a kind of civic awakening. Let’s hope American citizens will see in this harbingers of our future if we continue the way we are.
[quote]wigsa wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
If all the Socialist Countries keep going the way they are, and Germany bails them all out. Would Germany own most of Europe?[/quote]
WHAT FUCKING SOCIALIST COUNTRIES??[/quote]
If you can’t see that, at present, Great Britain is operating as fascist government masquerading as a democracy then really Matthew 15:14 has come to pass…
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
This freedom has been lost already: http://community.wddty.com/forums/thread/10360.aspx
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Depressing. Let’s hope the UK undergoes a kind of civic awakening. Let’s hope American citizens will see in this harbingers of our future if we continue the way we are.
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No kidding. No amount of HOT-ROX EXTREME, with all the magic ingredients in it, are lifting the sloth I experience from living with fellow citizens who are in a state of slumber…you end up looking like a lunatic if you try to make some noise.
There is no visceral response from the UK collectively.
America will die to itself the day you lose your instinctual vibrancy.
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
This freedom has been lost already: http://community.wddty.com/forums/thread/10360.aspx
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Depressing. Let’s hope the UK undergoes a kind of civic awakening. Let’s hope American citizens will see in this harbingers of our future if we continue the way we are.
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No kidding. No amount of HOT-ROX EXTREME, with all the magic ingredients in it, are lifting the sloth I experience from living with fellow citizens who are in a state of slumber…you end up looking like a lunatic if you try to make some noise.
There is no visceral response from the UK collectively.
America will die to itself the day you lose your instinctual vibrancy.
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I’ve lived in London and Oxford. In both places I experienced something unexpected: British citizens would sidle up to me to talk (furtively, of course) about this very issue. It’s as if they felt they could trust me not to “out” them. (The pressure you speak of is very real; in fact, I experience something very similar to that here in Boston.) What that tells me, though, is that the British instinct for liberty is still alive and well. It must be: not only is it one of the birthplaces of liberty, it is a profoundly human trait that is rooted in something transcendent. It just needs to be prodded a little. That’s all.
Probably, also, what must change (concurrently) is the increasingly empty pews on Sunday. Not a sufficient, but prolly a necessary condition.
I haven’t lived in the UK,but have many friends there that I have visited many times,and I don’t know,Katz.I think the ship you talk about has sailed.As long as there is enough football on tv and enough pop music,lager and drugs,I think they are quite content in their docility.But like I said,I’ve only spent weeks at a time there,nothing long term.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
[quote]wigsa wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
If all the Socialist Countries keep going the way they are, and Germany bails them all out. Would Germany own most of Europe?[/quote]
WHAT FUCKING SOCIALIST COUNTRIES??[/quote]
Label v. substance. Think about it. [/quote]
The jaundiced eye.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Oh yeah, Europeans are known for not starting wars.[/quote]
We grew out of it.
For you it is one of the things that is built into the system and keeps the empire going.
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Nonsense.
You’ve had a boot on your throat.
Just watch what happens as the boot is removed.
Good luck.
JeffR
Probably, also, what must change (concurrently) is the increasingly empty pews on Sunday. Not a sufficient, but prolly a necessary condition.
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I agree Katz. It would be a nice change to sit in some traffic on the way to Church on Sunday mornings.