Do get your blood work done? Does Enclomiphene really do anything when you take with TRT. I like that you are getting some deca. All TRT should have it. But your ratio seems off to me (1:1). Did they check your e2 levels while on it. It’s such a lose dose 120mg (deca barely aromatizes). At least for me, every drug has effects. So while I have arididex, I don’t always take it.
Yes, as far as I know all TRT clinics require you to get bloodwork before you start, but the one I’m using only requires retesting every 6 months, so I still only have my initial bloodwork values. In my research very, very few TRT clinics even offer Deca, and it was actually pretty hard to get it from mine.
Why are you taking Nandrolone period? You should get stable on a TRT protocol before ever adding PEDs like Nandrolone (Deca). Also enclomaphine is worthless IMO on TrT. They sound like they’re throwing the kitchen sink at you which isn’t a good approach.
On advice of TRT clinic. Do you have a source for your protocol? How do you know about getting stable first, and adding Deca later, and that Enclomiphene is worthless, etc? Is it all documented somewhere?
Deca is not a hormone you replace. It’s a PED that has negative health implications long term. Google it yourself. Some clinics prescribe low doses for joint pain but they are usually 50-100mg and after you are stable on a TrT protocol.
Enclomiphene is simply not needed. If you ever wish to become more fertile there are on time protocols for that. Again use google.
Why do I know the proper steps… experience for one but also a standard scientific approach.
Each med you listed can cause side effects that overlap. For example, it’s likely you’re going to get ED of some sort doing third. I’d bet money. It’s fixable, but how will you know if it’s E2 related or the Deca?
tRT should be solo test for 6-8wk, followed by labs, followed by dose adjustment or AI additive. Then once stable, you could add something.
Deca is getting more common for TRT for older people. It doesn’t really convert to e2 either. It has excellent effect on joints at doses as low as 50 per week. I just think the ratio is way out of whack. I actually think at that ratio it would encourage libido issues. After all, there is a reason the term “deca dick” exists. It would seem like 150/50 would be a better ratio. And that combo I can’t imagine would have more an effect on bloods than 200 test. Enclomiphene still doesn’t make sense to me. It’s called TRT because you are replacing test. When people go off TRT, they often give clomid (I guess Enclomiphene now?) to start own T production, just like PCT.
And blshaw said it right re 50-100. You aren’t going to really notice the good part of deca (to some) other than joint relief until you go to at least 200. So why run it at 120? All you are doing is requiring more test for the right ratio to not screw up other things, and with the right amount of test; you are well beyond TRT with doing 120 deca per week.