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HAH this is pretty classic. Exactly 3 years ago, I was posting about X being a fat POS with unrealistic numbers associated with body mass, and being severely weak for his size (which he was) (I don’t know what he looks like these days, probably no different). Anyway, the most memorable poster in that thread saying I was full of shit and that X was “the man” and the “most respectable member on the forum”, was ‘Gregron’. Fucking awesome.

As for leaving, no why would you leave if you like it here, its a choice you should make, not other people ffs.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Maybe an extended leave of absence will change my perspective a little.

I’ve been thinking about it for a while now. It couldn’t hurt.[/quote]

You probably should this site has enough estrogen .[/quote]

Wow…you know literally nobody agrees with anything you say…[/quote]

Whats new.

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Stay. If you leave I’ll be the only hardcore 49er fan left on this whole fucking site.

But stop arguing with PX. Why the fuck anyone argues with some dude whose biggest contribution is giving detailed advice to people who are incapable of reading the daily articles posted on here is beyond me. The guy doesn’t contribute anything that can’t be gleaned from even a cursory perusal of the article archive on this site and yet, you’re constantly arguing with the guy. All it does is legitimize him and make you look like a whiny bitch half the time, even if I do agree with you much more often than not.

If for nothing other than the sake of the NFL threads in here, stay.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
So tonight we got sushi for dinner at work… Eh, wasn’t too bad, althought I’m 80% sure it wasn’t made by a Japanese chef…

[/quote]

I was tearing through the freezer a little while ago and it occurred to me that it would be great to make burger waffles.

Then like kismet this thread pops up as I was chowing down.

So Gregron, which would you have had- Regular burger on a bun, or burger waffles?

If you answer it the same way I ate them you should stay, But if you answer wrong you should still stay but quit being a whinny little nag.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:
My vote is you and X ignore eachother since neither of you wants to be the bigger man and just drop it.

I like you and Zraw as posters, and think you both contribute much more to the forums than I do, but i didnt like his post about getting everyone to ignore X.

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… this is exactly why I made that thread… I know you dont mean this in a bad way but I mentionned it about 20 times in that very thread who the “everyone” was aimed at… if those “everyone” had done it there would be no shitstorms no more… You are actually just now suggesting the very same thing I did, just not making a thread about it

[quote]Waittz wrote:
They are childish pleas for attention, or at least that is how i see it as an unbiased outsider.
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You may view it as such but why would I need attention “brought” to me because of that guy… Im smart enough to know my thread wasnt gonna be unanimous…

If I was looking for attention id just post more on my prep/offseason thread as it only brings positive attention but honestly I was/am having this thread mostly for you guys… why? Well because I sure as hell plan on competing at a national level and figured it would be cool for this site/you guys to have such thread and be able to look back at it someday… but honestly seeing the attitude and missinterpretation of many posters in my “ignore” thread just really put me off. I’m not holding this thread for ME, and if I was having it for a sponsorship it wouldnt be on this website

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[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
You, zraw, PX, etc all demean yourselves by bickering incessantly. Old gregron was much better, imo.

The difference between zraw and you v. PX, to me, is that posters like zraw and you are far nastier in your retorts than X ever is in his posts. Is X an opinionated bastard at times? Yes. But when you guys counterattack, you do so by saying things that are frankly just too mean-spirited for my taste.

Stay, but just be aware of that. PX comes across to me as opinionated and stubborn at times. You and zraw come across as arrogant, nasty a-holes at times. I’d much rather be opinionated and stubborn than a nasty a-hole.[/quote]

I certainly do not see why I should keep to myself how I feel about something when someone else doesnt.

There is nothing “mean-spirited” about what I say. I speak my mind and sorry but I dont think everyone looks great over here. When you talk so much and act like you’ve accomplished so much well yes chances are at some point I might decide to go "fuck off.

Yes, I will say it again, to me the guy looks fat and I wouldnt want to look like this ever and chances are woman AND bbers do not find his physique impressive… so why would I give the man some respect in that regard?

He’s also weak, why would I respect him in that regard?

What is there left?

We can debate this all we want if you like, but the fact remains that until he can be impressive to me in at least one aspect of bodybuilding well I wont pay the guy much respect, especially when its something he himself lacks

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X tries to make every thread he writes in become all about him. It’s what he does and he makes ridiculous statements so it’s fine that people like yourself pull him up on that shit. At some stage though it’s time to make your point then move on.

But hell don’t leave the site just because of one crazy poster. Everyone on the site knows what that guy is like. Pull him up for his nonsense for sure but don’t continue to engage in it. Once the point is made onlookers can see for themselves what is real and what is absurd.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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[quote]gregron wrote:
Here’s a little back story:

Some of you may know that Professor X and I have been having a bit of a back and forth going. His last response to me was as follows:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, just stop. That goes for your friends too. This topic isn’t about any of the crap you and friends are now taking up this thread with.

Some of you are here for jokes…and all you are doing is turning this whole forum into one.

It is the exact same posters always commenting on my posts. Give it a rest.

Stick to the topic or quit rehashing the same crap on this forum.

Two posters have gone out of their way here so far to make the same comments.

This topic has been done before without this crap.

Yes, you are acting like a fool on this forum. You sure as hell aren’t helping anyone lately.

All of you loved his comment when you thought he was talking about me.

Quit bringing this forum down.[/quote]

According to X I am dragging this forum down and not contributing…

So I ask my fellow members a simple question: should I stay of should I go?

If you feel I’m dragging the forum down like X says them voice your opinion. If not then say so as well.

If the majority of posters agree with X then I will leave the site for good and not continue to drag it down.

It’s up to you T Nation.[/quote]

Holy Shit are serious?! You are such whiny, cry baby, attention seeking, little bitch. Please chalk me down as a; yes - please fuck off.

Some fucking people.

Gregorn - “everyone please look at me I am desperate for your acceptance. Love me.”

I wonder what TC thinks when he reads shit like this on his site?

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Best stay because at your best you give sound and well thought out advice but both you and X should put each other on ignore. I doubt that will happen though as despite all protestations to the contrary you both really enjoy having a go at each other and are developing a sort of weird courtship. Maybe you could both become firm friends he can take you for a triple cheeseburger and you could teach him to lunge

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I remember back in the day when T-Cell Alpha was the only place with Tribunals. Now they’re all mainstream n shit in the general forums.

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Lol wow. You gotta love TN. Im alittle late to this but ill share my thoughts. Gregron, I think you should stay as well. But like others have said, put PX on ignore and let it go man. This place has lost alot of good members as it is.

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[quote]gregron wrote:
Cliff notes:

Prof X says I’m ruining the forums and that I don’t contribute.
I want to see how the majority feels.
If the majority agrees with X I will leave the forum.[/quote]

I like you simply for your witty 10 point list of X’s posting behavior.

However, I don’t understand how you can go from (rightfully) making fun of X to actually trying to engage him again and again about his positions. There is no need for you (and Brick, Stu, etc.) to show how stupid X’s posts are, because anyone with half a brain will see that X is a complete retard. Those who don’t see it are beyond help.

I say that you should stay but only if you either ignore X completely or better just make fun of him here and there.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:
But stop arguing with PX. [/quote]

This - it’s really the only thing you can do.

The same arguments repeat over and over and over again here. And it should be obvious at this point exactly how those conversations are going to go. So, either leave the site completely, or ignore it.

Because after awhile it’s pointless, it changes nothing, and you just make yourself miserable.

Honestly, once you realize that someone is an impossible asshole - that nothing will ever get through to them - then it becomes your own fault if you choose to continue engaging them.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I remember back in the day when T-Cell Alpha was the only place with Tribunals. Now they’re all mainstream n shit in the general forums.[/quote]

Wasn’t sure if it still worked…

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/blog_sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_iron/tribunal_for_browndisaster

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[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
My vote is you and X ignore eachother since neither of you wants to be the bigger man and just drop it.

I like you and Zraw as posters, and think you both contribute much more to the forums than I do, but i didnt like his post about getting everyone to ignore X.

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… this is exactly why I made that thread… I know you dont mean this in a bad way but I mentionned it about 20 times in that very thread who the “everyone” was aimed at… if those “everyone” had done it there would be no shitstorms no more… You are actually just now suggesting the very same thing I did, just not making a thread about it

[quote]Waittz wrote:
They are childish pleas for attention, or at least that is how i see it as an unbiased outsider.
[/quote]

You may view it as such but why would I need attention “brought” to me because of that guy… Im smart enough to know my thread wasnt gonna be unanimous…

If I was looking for attention id just post more on my prep/offseason thread as it only brings positive attention but honestly I was/am having this thread mostly for you guys… why? Well because I sure as hell plan on competing at a national level and figured it would be cool for this site/you guys to have such thread and be able to look back at it someday… but honestly seeing the attitude and missinterpretation of many posters in my “ignore” thread just really put me off. I’m not holding this thread for ME, and if I was having it for a sponsorship it wouldnt be on this website
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You are spot on on the first part and yes, i didnt mean it in a bad way. Just telling you how i perceived it.

As to the rest, whether you know it or not, you are a big fish in a small pond, but i think you already know that. This means allot of people read what you post, unlike people like me where half of it just gets skipped over. And perception is reality, so if that many of us interpreted the thread that way, is because you, and most likely unbeknown to you, wrote it that way.

This next part is not directed at you per say but most of us, myself included. We can take, and even ask for criticism about our physical appearance here and welcome all the negative ones so we can use them to get an unbiased view on our weaknesses in order to improve them. Something thinks they have great shoulders, but after hearing 10 people say work on your shoulders they can agree and start to view them as a problem that need to be fixed. BUT the second our web personality or communication skills get the same treatment, everyone becomes so defensive and offended.

Ok, this thread is too much for me now, back to talking about Zombies.

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[quote]GCF wrote:

I wonder what TC thinks when he reads shit like this on his site?[/quote]

He probably thinks “Man, Gregron is a level 4, I hope he doesn’t leave the site.”

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Honestly, if you are really having to mull it over, you should probably leave. Not because of any BS about bringing down the forum, but because you really shouldn’t care so much about a forum. People take this shit way too seriously. I really only go through and seriously read people like CT and Stu anymore. I’ve really just quit caring about the rest.

If you really want, we can both take an extended vacation.

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[quote]zraw wrote:
Yes, I will say it again, to me the guy looks fat and I wouldnt want to look like this ever and chances are woman AND bbers do not find his physique impressive… so why would I give the man some respect in that regard?

He’s also weak, why would I respect him in that regard?[/quote]
He’s weak? Seriously? What are his lifts? I mean, you’re all cut up lean and dry and bodybuilt and shit so I can understand how you would think everyone else is “fat”, but I would be shocked if Prof X was weak. He’s enormous, surely he can’t be that weak. Honestly can anyone prove to me that he’s weak?