T-Dawg Diet?

There’s nothing overly scientific about this. People on the diet simply noticed they got great results with more carbs than originally recommended. So instead of 70/30 (70 grams on training day and 30 on other days), we now suggest 100/70.

My question is what constitutes a training day. I am referring to the Waterbury Summer Project, he has it that you should do HIIT 1 day, weights the next. Does HIIT count as a training day, or only weights days? Sorry for the newbie question, but I want to make sure Im not sabotaging my scuccess.

I am on a similar diet and I tend to eat extra carbs on days that my workouts consist of more cardio. (I eat the extra carbs just after my workout session).

Serveral years ago I was on the T-Dawg. At that time I was training really hard. I was playing sports (rugby) but also training at the gym (cardio/weights). I found that it was necessary to have those extras carbs, thus I simply stayed with 100g day and unless I had a rest day. I still lost a ton of weight but I felt good.

[quote]davidh019 wrote:
There’s nothing overly scientific about this. People on the diet simply noticed they got great results with more carbs than originally recommended. So instead of 70/30 (70 grams on training day and 30 on other days), we now suggest 100/70.

My question is what constitutes a training day. I am referring to the Waterbury Summer Project, he has it that you should do HIIT 1 day, weights the next. Does HIIT count as a training day, or only weights days? Sorry for the newbie question, but I want to make sure Im not sabotaging my scuccess.[/quote]

david,

What they mean by a training day is anything that taxes your glycogen stores extensively (I.e. Weight lifting).

HIIT would not apply in this case as while intense from a cardiovascular stand point, the taxation would not warrant the extra CHOs.

That’s obviously a rough guide, as is every diet on T-Nation, so try it out and modify accordingly.

Cheers,

Sasha

[quote]SashaG wrote:
davidh019 wrote:
There’s nothing overly scientific about this. People on the diet simply noticed they got great results with more carbs than originally recommended. So instead of 70/30 (70 grams on training day and 30 on other days), we now suggest 100/70.

My question is what constitutes a training day. I am referring to the Waterbury Summer Project, he has it that you should do HIIT 1 day, weights the next. Does HIIT count as a training day, or only weights days? Sorry for the newbie question, but I want to make sure Im not sabotaging my scuccess.

david,

What they mean by a training day is anything that taxes your glycogen stores extensively (I.e. Weight lifting).

HIIT would not apply in this case as while intense from a cardiovascular stand point, the taxation would not warrant the extra CHOs.

That’s obviously a rough guide, as is every diet on T-Nation, so try it out and modify accordingly.

Cheers,

Sasha

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It’s actually the opposite, Sasha. Weight training does deplete glycogen some. Intense intervals actually deplete it a lot more. Say 8-10 x 400 as an example. Recovery drinks such as Surge were, in fact, originally designed for endurance athletes and sprinters and the like. Note: this does not apply to pussyfooting around at a loll on the eliptical.

Well I didnt use it for HIIT and reserved the higher carb days for lifting and yes feel that is what the original diet was designed for but it has leway like was stated you make it fit.

If you are doing HIIT and your going 400 friggin meters each sprint then by all means you deserve those extra carbs. For me yes HIIT is all the hell out give all I got but I usually do say 30 seconds on 90 moderate. Im whiped the hell out many times its hill sprints or stairs etc but still I found it was best for me not to take in the extra when fat loss was the main goal and my performance in the gym didnt suffer. The low GI carbs veggies etc seemed to keep me going fine for the lifting.

Thats the main thing gauge the success and need of carbs and intake in general by how you perform and how mjuch your losing a week. If performance goes down the tubes and you lose say 3-4 lbs in a week you need more intake in general.

Thats my experience
Phill

[quote]Phill wrote:
Well I didnt use it for HIIT and reserved the higher carb days for lifting and yes feel that is what the original diet was designed for but it has leway like was stated you make it fit.

If you are doing HIIT and your going 400 friggin meters each sprint then by all means you deserve those extra carbs. For me yes HIIT is all the hell out give all I got but I usually do say 30 seconds on 90 moderate. Im whiped the hell out many times its hill sprints or stairs etc but still I found it was best for me not to take in the extra when fat loss was the main goal and my performance in the gym didnt suffer. The low GI carbs veggies etc seemed to keep me going fine for the lifting.

Thats the main thing gauge the success and need of carbs and intake in general by how you perform and how mjuch your losing a week. If performance goes down the tubes and you lose say 3-4 lbs in a week you need more intake in general.

Thats my experience
Phill
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I agree. I think what most people do for HIIT would not require Surge afterwards. As an athlete, depending on what your workouts look like, this is likely not true. But the energy systems work most people do purely for body composition purposes wouldn’t normally require it.

You’re correct in that Surge wouldn’t be required, but it could still be of benefit by squashing catabolism and getting BCAAs and glycogen into muscle.

[quote]ChrisKing wrote:
jsbrook wrote:I agree. I think what most people do for HIIT would not require Surge afterwards. As an athlete, depending on what your workouts look like, this is likely not true. But the energy systems work most people do purely for body composition purposes wouldn’t normally require it.

You’re correct in that Surge wouldn’t be required, but it could still be of benefit by squashing catabolism and getting BCAAs and glycogen into muscle.[/quote]

AGree with you both and like I think everyone is saying it boils down to the individual there goals, current BF%, the intensity and duration of the HIIT or cardio. If maintianing MAXIMUM muscle while dropping that last few % is the goal trying to keep intensity and performance High then the Surge Afterward IMO would be well worth it. If you had a TON to lose or the sessions arent that intense then Nah skip it and go for the further/greater fat loss you arent really risking the muscle as much in this situation.

Might however be a good choice to take a quality BCAA supp.