bench always used to hit my delts and tri’s way more too. try to keep your shoulder blades pinned together during the lift. helped me a bunch, might work for you too.
[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
wings_931 wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
Ok. Listen. At 145 lbs, nothing has really “worked for you” yet. You missed the part where I said size isnt necessarily a qualification. EXPERIENCE is. CT is 205 at a low bodyfat and a competitive O-lifter. That means he has experience. A 145 lb teenager that has been lifting for a year does not.
Gaining 25 lbs shouldnt have been that difficult if you were really 120 lbs and malnourished. You just had to start eating. Props for that, a good portion of the new posters here havent figured that one out.
The problem I have with many of your posts is that you give complicated advice to people who do not need it. Suggesting a giant set leg routine to a beginner who wants to add size to his legs is, in reality, most likely going to lead to that beginner either overtraining or getting so tied up in this minor detail or that minor detail that he will confuse himself to all hell and give up.
A better answer to that question would have been “squat and deadlift regularly and consistently add weight to the bar”. Iv got a good article you and anyone else should read if they are interested in gaining mass. PM me if you want it.
This shit is not complicated, you do not have to sweat over doing x many reps x times a week at a x/y/z tempo while the moon is entering the house of aquarius or some shit. You pick something up and you make sure that its heavier than the last time you picked a heavy something up. You eat, you rest, and then you repeat.
The two most important aspects are intensity and progression. Without those two, you can have all of the fancy periodization, programming, and science in the world, and youre still just twittling your thumbs.
Hang on a sec…
How in the hell are you going to give advice to anyone when you barley weighs what he weighs?!
And to boot - how are you to tell him what has worked and doesn’t when you have very limited training experience yourself!
…Kids.
I am hoping that was not directed at me. If it was, go back and do your research again.[/quote]
Ok, done my research and yes it was completely aimed at you, dont act like you didn’t know.
I checked out your log, congrats on the progress, BUT you still have a long way to go before you start handing out advice to others, when you hit 250 LEAN, then lets talk.
Undead - keep lifting your doing great.
Could always give HSS-100 chest specialization a chance. I’m going to give it a go the next 4 weeks and see how it works out.
Everybody “feels it” most in the triceps and delts.
Of the muscles used in benching, they are the weakest so they tire before the pecs and you feel more worn out and tired in your weakest links than you do in your stronger pecs. It is normal.
Yes, flys are great for isolating pecs and giving them extra work after your tries and delts tire out on you.
I wouldn’t substitute them for benching though because your delts and tris will suffer and your bench strength will actually get lower as your weakest links would become weaker out of neglect.
I would never say to use flyes instead of bench, but they are a good complimentary exercise.