Sustanon + Tren Advice?

Morning gents,
I have been planning my first tren ace cycle for a few weeks, this will be my 5th proper cycle, I’m currently 108kg at around 14% body fat. I was going to use test cyp like I normally do and frontload it in the beginning then add the tren after 2 weeks, I’m looking to dose the test around 300mg (split twice a week) throughout the cycle just to reduce sides and start the tren at 50mg EOD and bump it up if i feel ok to do so. I’ll also be using caber and will have an AI there if needed.

However my mate just gave me a free bottle of sust 400 and I was wondering how I would go about using that to kick things off quicker in the beginning. Or would you reccomend me to still wait the 2 weeks before adding the tren due to the test enanthate and cyp esters not being fully in my system until week 2?

The esters are in your system about 60 minutes after you pin. You reach stable blood levels around six weeks. If you want to start a cycle then just start it. No front loading broscience, no need to mess around with lunar cycles, none of it. Yes, the test will lag a bit. But it won’t make a difference that you’ll notice unless you’re one of the people who reacts horribly to tren. In that case you were doomed from the start.

As for the sustanon…man, at 400mg/ml I’m betting it has some bite to it. I’d pass. You don’t need to go looking for extra pip when it’s not necessary, you know what I mean?

So for something like EQ, wouldn’t frontloading the first week help you achieve peak conc earlier and allow for a shorter cycle, say 12-14 weeks instead of 16-20?

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I’m thinking of just using that one bottle of sust I have just to get things off to a flying start so I won’t have to frontload, I only ever frontload to have a shorter cycle anyway. Then I’ll switch to test cyp, for the remainder of the cycle. I’m making it overly complicated I know but I couldn’t turn down free test haha, also yes I am a bit worried about the pip as I always go into my legs but I’ve never had problems before, even when injecting close to a gram of test 300mg/ml in one go (when I was more inexperienced and as a final jab i said fuck it I’ll do the rest in one instead of splitting it into two)

So you think it would be better to wait until the test levels are stable before adding the tren, say 6 weeks after first shot? I have been stupid in the past with high dosages so this time I really need to look after myself. Had high BP and a bit of acne on my traps but I’ve had a long time off since my last cycle so just want to take it with caution from now on.

Yes, EQ is the exception to the rule. Although not on a first run. Too many things can go wrong with a new compound.

I think you’ll be fine starting them together. If you know how you react to test then you can isolate any tren related sides pretty easily.

Ok cheers, yeah I’ll see how it goes, been looking forward to running tren for a while now. I’ll post some before/after pics if it all goes as planned