I’m working through Scrawny to Brawny program and using Surge Recovery drinks. I currently drink one serving before - during my workout, and one serving after workout. I read it’s good to consume another protein shake/drink before bed.
Is Surge Recovery one to use before bed, or should I use another type of protein shake? Love Surge Recovery, but not sure before bed is the it’s best use.
Brother, I’d avoid that and use something like Metabolic Drive before bed due to it having the slow digesting cassein proteins in it. Keeping you anabolic while you slumber. You’d run out of Surge rather quickly using post workout and pre bedtime and it’s not intended for that (bedtime).
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50 grams of sugar, you tell me.
[quote]jahall wrote:
50 grams of sugar, you tell me.[/quote]
This isn’t necessarily bad if you’re training late, as I often do, but I wouldn’t use it for my second feeding after training.
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
jahall wrote:
50 grams of sugar, you tell me.
This isn’t necessarily bad if you’re training late, as I often do, but I wouldn’t use it for my second feeding after training.[/quote]
Yeah i train pretty late (starting at 8 or so), but carbs keep me wired if i take them within about 2 hours of going to bed
[quote]jahall wrote:
HK24719 wrote:
jahall wrote:
50 grams of sugar, you tell me.
This isn’t necessarily bad if you’re training late, as I often do, but I wouldn’t use it for my second feeding after training.
Yeah i train pretty late (starting at 8 or so), but carbs keep me wired if i take them within about 2 hours of going to bed
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For many, and possibly most, people, carbs before bed will help sleep by increasing serotonin levels.
This isn’t to suggest that Surge Recovery should be used to before bed unless trains late in the evening. It’s to indicate that carbs shouldn’t be feared in the evening just because some Internet guru has issued carb and fat cutoff times.
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
jahall wrote:
HK24719 wrote:
jahall wrote:
50 grams of sugar, you tell me.
This isn’t necessarily bad if you’re training late, as I often do, but I wouldn’t use it for my second feeding after training.
Yeah i train pretty late (starting at 8 or so), but carbs keep me wired if i take them within about 2 hours of going to bed
For many, and possibly most, people, carbs before bed will help sleep by increasing serotonin levels.
This isn’t to suggest that Surge Recovery should be used to before bed unless trains late in the evening. It’s to indicate that carbs shouldn’t be feared in the evening just because some Internet guru has issued carb and fat cutoff times.[/quote]
Carbs might boost your seratonin levels, but they also blunt your growth hormone which should peak 60 minutes into sleep. I’m pretty sure Gh while you sleep is very important to recovery. Recently CT has said that he has started taking Alpha-GPC before bed for this exact purpose (to boost GH). Carbs can block GH release for up to 4 hours. So given this info, I do not purposefully ever take carbs before bed, unless my schedule forces me to workout in the late evening. And if that’s the case, I do not take post workout carbs whatsoever. It works for me.
[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
HK24719 wrote:
jahall wrote:
HK24719 wrote:
jahall wrote:
50 grams of sugar, you tell me.
This isn’t necessarily bad if you’re training late, as I often do, but I wouldn’t use it for my second feeding after training.
Yeah i train pretty late (starting at 8 or so), but carbs keep me wired if i take them within about 2 hours of going to bed
For many, and possibly most, people, carbs before bed will help sleep by increasing serotonin levels.
This isn’t to suggest that Surge Recovery should be used to before bed unless trains late in the evening. It’s to indicate that carbs shouldn’t be feared in the evening just because some Internet guru has issued carb and fat cutoff times.
Carbs might boost your seratonin levels, but they also blunt your growth hormone which should peak 60 minutes into sleep. I’m pretty sure Gh while you sleep is very important to recovery. Recently CT has said that he has started taking Alpha-GPC before bed for this exact purpose (to boost GH). Carbs can block GH release for up to 4 hours. So given this info, I do not purposefully ever take carbs before bed, unless my schedule forces me to workout in the late evening. And if that’s the case, I do not take post workout carbs whatsoever. It works for me.[/quote]
Lots of things will work for lots of people.
The point I was trying to make is that one shouldn’t worry about arbitrary carb cutoff points, especially when they train in the evening.
As for when not training in the evening, there’s a big difference in 5 to 10 grams of carbohydrate prior to bed versus half a pizza or a big bowl of ice cream.
All I know is that Surge taste really good (chocolate FTW), so you do the math.
I’m just sayin’
[quote]elusive wrote:
All I know is that Surge taste really good (chocolate FTW), so you do the math.
I’m just sayin’[/quote]
I don’t know how to add flavors
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
jahall wrote:
HK24719 wrote:
jahall wrote:
50 grams of sugar, you tell me.
This isn’t necessarily bad if you’re training late, as I often do, but I wouldn’t use it for my second feeding after training.
Yeah i train pretty late (starting at 8 or so), but carbs keep me wired if i take them within about 2 hours of going to bed
For many, and possibly most, people, carbs before bed will help sleep by increasing serotonin levels.
This isn’t to suggest that Surge Recovery should be used to before bed unless trains late in the evening. It’s to indicate that carbs shouldn’t be feared in the evening just because some Internet guru has issued carb and fat cutoff times.[/quote]
I believe I’ve read something to this effect. 95% of the serotonin in a healthy adult is produced in the small intestine, and some process involved in carbohydrate uptake from the diet helps stimulate normal serotonin levels. I believe it was in the same article that explored poor diets being strongly associated with depression and generalized anxiety disorder, in what we in the lifting community refer to as “loose gut syndrome” (I think Louie Simmons coined that). Basically though, if you don’t eat well, your small intestine becomes inefficient at its functions, one of which is producing serotonin. Low serotonin leads to depression and anxiety.
Moral of the story: eat your lean meats and veggies.
That said, I’m not sure if Surge Recovery is the best option before bed. If carbs are your concern, I would shoot for some slower-burning carbs like oatmeal, or if the actual recovery is your goal, I would just go for some whey with a bit of extra carbs thrown in.
HK > Why would you boost serotonin levels before bed-time? Wouldn’t you want to elevate melatonin levels instead? (Maybe i missed someting?)
Dedicated is right on.
Works for me.
Just keep it simple and enjoy the results.