After a 9 month bulk, I am ready to cut for summer. I have already started, this month, with a very slight reduction in calories, and am experiencing expected fat loss. My question is this: Will post workout Surge slow fatloss?
Obviously I am looking to get lean with as little muscle loss as possible, but I also would like to lose the fat as quickly as possible. Would anyone who knows what they are talking about have any advice for me here? Thank you for your time.
Ultimately, yeah, it will slow fatloss. But, it will help you retain more muscle than you would have if you didnt drink it. Keep it in your diet.
Oh, that, and make sure you take at least a month to maintain your current weight. If you dont let your body adjust, it will rid all of the muscle you just gained.
shawninjapan, I have to agree with rrjc5488 on this one. Optimizing pre and post-workout nutrition is going to help preserve LBM (Lean Body Mass) and help you recover more quickly. Finding the optimal amount of carbs and calories for YOU will allow you to make steady progress towards your goals … with or without Surge.
It’s not something that needs to be avoided just because you are cutting. Surge even has been used successfully in very low carb diets.
From the sound of things, though, you’ve got your diet fairly well dialed in and are making progress towards your goals. So don’t second-guess yourself. Slow and steady wins the race! (grin)
Thanks for the advice. I actually took around two months of maintenance at the end there, so I’m not too worried about it. I was wondering about the Surge because of a comment Prisoner22 (?) made in his thread on the run-up to his recent competition. Something like, ‘obviously I cut out the Surge,’ or something to that effect, so I was just curious.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Oh, that, and make sure you take at least a month to maintain your current weight. If you dont let your body adjust, it will rid all of the muscle you just gained.[/quote]
[quote]shawninjapan wrote:
I was wondering about the Surge because of a comment Prisoner22 (?) made in his thread on the run-up to his recent competition. Something like, ‘obviously I cut out the Surge,’ or something to that effect, so I was just curious.
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Well, when you get down to “competition” level, things can change a little bit… 
Surge shouldn’t impede fat loss, but it may increase your body weight in the form of Glycogen retention.
I have been using Surge post workout and have lost fat steadily for the last 6 weeks. I have been doing high volume workouts and I can’t imagine recovering for the next workout if Surge was not a part of my recovery. I do also have to speak highly of what a brisk 30-45 minute walk everyday will do for recovery.
Breakfast and post-training are the two times when fast acting carbs (like Surge) can be taken without too much worry about fat gain. Your body is depleted of muscle glycogen at those times and the sugar will go toward replenishing those stores rather than being shuttled into fat cells. The insulin spike after training is actually desirable since nutrients, creatine, etc. ride along with the sugar on its way into the muscles. This also shut down catabolism and helps you keep the lean gains you’ve worked for.
Bottom line: It’s better to cut your carbs at night rather than give up the PWO Surge.
[quote]Kruiser wrote:
Breakfast and post-training are the two times when fast acting carbs (like Surge) can be taken without too much worry about fat gain. Your body is depleted of muscle glycogen at those times and the sugar will go toward replenishing those stores rather than being shuttled into fat cells. The insulin spike after training is actually desirable since nutrients, creatine, etc. ride along with the sugar on its way into the muscles. This also shut down catabolism and helps you keep the lean gains you’ve worked for.
Bottom line: It’s better to cut your carbs at night rather than give up the PWO Surge.[/quote]
(except for those of us who work out at night after work)