Super Saiyan: How Do You Train?


on the next episode of how do you train…

He’s clearly very intelligent, as well as big enough to be accused of senzu bean usage. Give us some history, what you do, and the how and why of your approach to everything, except possibly calf training…

How’d it feel the first time you transformed?

I’ve been trying to reach SSJ2 for years, what’s the secret?

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
How’d it feel the first time you transformed?

I’ve been trying to reach SSJ2 for years, what’s the secret?[/quote]

You have to let Vegita talk mad shit about your dad and probably pork your mom.

I know the secrets of the Sayian Magi…

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
How’d it feel the first time you transformed?

I’ve been trying to reach SSJ2 for years, what’s the secret? [/quote]

I would like to know how to transform. People keep saying it is impossible for me.

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
How’d it feel the first time you transformed?

I’ve been trying to reach SSJ2 for years, what’s the secret?[/quote]

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French Toast

Transformation Host

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
How’d it feel the first time you transformed?

I’ve been trying to reach SSJ2 for years, what’s the secret?[/quote]

Best Post

French Toast

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Curse you Kakarot! I don’t know if I ever will go ssj3 until that movie comes out and certainly don’t want to fuse!

Deleted this moronic DBZ post that I’m ashamed of.

To not derail this completely I too am interested in this and would like to keep it along the lines of the sub-forum’s name.

I can assume you are not a fan of the “bulk” based on your recent posts. Are you a slow and steady wins the race type of dude or do you just not give a shit and try and life heavier, run faster and jump higher every time you step foot in the gym?

hyperbolic time chamber

steroids

cheater

I LOL’d. I will be posting a very long respone that will bore you to tears but need to get some work done first. I’ll check back in later.

Wheres vegeta at? I seen his posts around here for years but no pics…

After viewing this thread again… I think I better go the Mystic Gohan route then

oh my god i’ve been trying to ascend for a while,i guess i either need to beat my self up and get that there zenkai or train for another 7 years like my man vegeta

[quote]DamonLafarge wrote:
oh my god i’ve been trying to ascend for a while,i guess i either need to beat my self up and get that there zenkai or train for another 7 years like my man vegeta[/quote]

lol I think my brain works in subconscious ways, or perhaps I still watch too much dbz

My training log is called Ascend(ancy) for a reason I suppose

Looking swole Super Saiyan

I guess I’m the only one that’s reached SSJG status

I have no idea whats going on, but Im in for secksey brachialises

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]DamonLafarge wrote:
oh my god i’ve been trying to ascend for a while,i guess i either need to beat my self up and get that there zenkai or train for another 7 years like my man vegeta[/quote]

lol I think my brain works in subconscious ways, or perhaps I still watch too much dbz

My training log is called Ascend(ancy) for a reason I suppose

Looking swole Super Saiyan[/quote]

dbz is the greatest…new movie coming out soon

So here is my story:

I was skinny in high school. I was 6’0’’ and about 140 - 145 lbs. I didn’t start weight training until I was 18 or 19. When I started, I lifted with a dude that always wanted to do bench, shrugs, and curls. I gained a little weight and got a little stronger but still didn’t make much progress. Diet was not even a consideration. I had no clue.

I got married and had my first kid when I was 20. My shift at work started mid-morning so I would go work out at the YMCA in the morning. I still didn’t really know what I was doing. I knew to hit every body part but I didn’t have a method or split I followed and the gym sucked so I was limited in what I could do. They didn’t even have a squat rack. I gave up my membership after a couple of years and didn’t do anything for several months.

I got a weight machine from someone who was getting new equipment. It was a cable machine with different stations. I screwed around on it for a while and tried some stupid stuff like super slow training. I needed to figure out what I was doing so I started searching on the internet. I came across an article titled, “The Most Hated Man in Bodybuilding”.

I thought the site (T-Mag back then) was pretty cool so I stuck around and read the FAQs and some articles they had posted up. Back then they had an online edition with new articles they released every Friday. I kept reading and finally joined the site in 2004. I decided my equipment was garbage. Time constraints and money made a gym membership impossible so I saved up and got a barbell and some plates. I hung bike hooks from the joists and put a steel pipe in them for pullups. I used two chairs back to back for dips. I didn’t have a rack so I bought a couple of sawhorses to work off of. (Rock bottom squats were brutal.)

I played around with some different splits and programs. Anyone remember TC’s Oscillating Wave Program? Yes, TC Luoma wrote some training articles back in the day.

The first program I committed to seriously was Waterbury’s Total Body Training. It might not be optimal for an advanced lifter but for me, who was still pretty much a noob, it was great. I trained three days a week with mostly movements that gave you a lot of bang for your buck: deadlifts, squat variations, overhead press, hang cleans, pullups, dips, rows, etc. There were one or two isolation movements thrown in at the end of the session; I still had to pump the bis and tris bro. Day 1 was 3-5 reps. Day 2 was 8-10 reps. Day 3 was 15-20 reps. After a few weeks you would move your Workout 1 to Day 2 or 3 so the same exercises were performed at a different rep range. You can look at the TBT article on this site for the exact details.

I also started reading about nutrition. I got some protein, started eating more, and paid attention to post-workout nutrition. I got a lot stronger and started packing on some size. For a kid who was skinny all his life it was cool to see my bodyweight pushing 185-190. That’s funny to me now but back then it was awesome. Training days weren’t always consistent but I did the best I could. At the time I was working two jobs and going to school at night to finish my undergrad degree. We also had three kids by then. My shift changed so training was done at night after school, homework, kid time, etc. There were times I didn’t get to train until 11:00 pm. Sometimes I could only train two days a week. If that happened I would push Day 3 of my program to the first day the following week and continue my program as scheduled. I didn’t just skip a day and start over.

This continued on until 2006. I quit my job, moved my family to another state and started law school. Finding time for training was still hard with the studying and making time for family (we had four kids by this time). I still managed to get in the gym 3 days for the most part, fewer during finals. I still did mostly TBT and would switch it up with some split routines every few months. I got stronger still and my weight continued to go up, but some of that was due to eating more and sitting in a chair for hours on end most days for class and studying. I was probably a sloppy 210.

After I graduated we moved again. The home had a bigger basement with room for more equipment. I had a rack, Iron Masters dumbbells that adjust up to 120 each, adjustable bench, and a cable machine that had a variety of stations and exercises. I started doing a split routine. I would do something like Chest/Tris, Back/Bis, Legs/Shoulders. I would start with a main compound movement with lower rep sets and then move on to accessory movements for mid to higher reps. Sometimes I would throw in an extra day and do some other movements I didn’t hit during the week. I got up to about 215 lbs but was still pretty sloppy.

I stagnated after a while and decided I needed to change something. I knew I had some decent size but didn’t like the way I looked when I took my shirt off. I started to eat better and do some cardio in the morning before work. I did lose fat but I wasn’t tracking my calories so I’m sure I was eating too little and lost some muscle too. I think I got down to 190 or so.

I changed jobs a couple of years ago that lets me to train at lunch. I did a split that allowed me to hit every body part twice per week. I would hit lower reps the first session and the other session I would hit mid to high reps. I started to put size back on. I did a short cut again last year with better success due to tracking my calories and carb cycling and ended up at about 200. I bumped my calories up again to pack on size at a pace that would facilitate slower fat gain.

The 4-day split I’m on now and have been doing for the last several months is this:
Monday: Back
Tuesday: Quads and Hams
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Chest and Shoulders
Friday: Arms, Calves, and Abs

Sometimes I will get a fifth day in and hit some things that I think could use some extra work.

For the most part I still like to start off with a heavier, compound movement; but sometimes I’ll switch it up and start with isolation movements for pre-fatigue. The biggest change I’ve made over the last year or two is focusing on MMC and making sure I feel the target muscle working. There are a lot of methods I use to assist with this. I use things like slower eccentrics, static holds, the 2/1 method, and 1 & 1/4 reps. I will also throw in really high reps or drop sets at the end to trash the muscle. I think my max strength has gone down a bit but I’m bigger than I have ever been. I recently hit 220 lbs at a lower body fat than I was at the sloppy 215.

The thing that has helped me the most is tracking my calories and being able to train consistently 4 (sometimes 5) days per week. IMO, there is no excuse to not track your calories if you care at all about body composition. It’s easy using the technology available. I use the MyFitnessPal app. It has a search tool and bar code scanner. It also remembers foods you eat frequently or have eaten recently and has graphs to track your macro percentages and body weight. I still have to alter my training days once in a while due to work, professional, or kid activities (we have 5 kids now 0_0). So I may bump Tues. to Wed., Fri. to Sat., etc.

My calves and hamstrings are my weak points. I had very skinny legs as a kid and didn’t train them much when I first started lifting with that douchebag I mentioned earlier. They’ve been slowly coming along over the years and I think are progressing even more using my current split. I now also throw in some extra ham work at the end of some of the other sessions if I’m not sore from quad/ham day.

I know some guys like to plan out their workouts to the minute but I don’t. I liked having that guidance back when I was a relative noob but now like to go by feel a lot more. I have a general idea of what I’m going to do when I go in but may change up the intensity or rep method depending on how I’m feeling. I still know that I have a lot to learn. I love reading posts from the experienced guys on the forums. But I am enjoying the journey that weight training has provided. It’s cool to learn how your body reacts to different training stimuli and diet modifications. Training is also an awesome stress reliever. I look forward to lunch time when I can go to the gym.

I also like to train my LOLs in the GAL forum… and sometimes the BB and BSL forums.

Cliffs Notes:

I was skinny. I got bigger. I like to LOL.