[quote]Verdades wrote:
You have to get past that excuse, and push your body to its limits. You have to keep pushing no matter what. [/quote]
YES
Just checking in: 6’7" and 195 lbs. 6’9" inch wingspan.
Any and all advice is helpful.
Girls, yes I know how tall and thin I am. No it doesn’t feel weird to be this tall, no you can’t have a piggyback ride, well, ok, but just this once.
This is a good read for the most part, I am 6’4 240 lbs at current and look forward to the journey of growth I am aware its not easy but thanks guys for some of the info and X great advice Bro. Gammarayz
I guess I’ll have to check in as well. I am 6’2 and 240lbs. Isn’t it funny when the topic of weight comes up sometimes and people are shocked that you weigh as much as 240(even though it is not much in my opinion) yet don’t look like it.
[quote]DaBeard wrote:
I guess I’ll have to check in as well. I am 6’2 and 240lbs. Isn’t it funny when the topic of weight comes up sometimes and people are shocked that you weigh as much as 240(even though it is not much in my opinion) yet don’t look like it. [/quote]
It is funny you say that. Because in the last week I have had 3 people tell me I look about 220 and my aunt thought I was “a shade under 200.” I am sitting at 250 +/- 2 right now. Either I look small, I hold it well (aka not in the belly), or they underestimate the weight of muscle…
The best is when I go to my doctor. He will always say something like , “so hey, how much ya bench now, hahah” yet when he weighs me starts telling me that I am taking weightlifting too seriously and am damaging my health because I am “overweight.” It is sad how little MDs know these days about something so important as exercise and Exercise physiology.
This is why this site rocks.
6’6", 215-220 here. Been training seriously for 4 years now, and been stuck in this 215-220 range for like a year. My problem is that I was a fat kid up until my sophomore year of high school, so I’m paranoid about “getting fat.” I’m by no means shredded right now, and could definitely stand to lose some body fat. I think those two things combined have created this psychological block that keeps me from eating enough.
That and I’m too freaking broke to buy enough food.
[quote]jhusk wrote:
This is why this site rocks.
6’6", 215-220 here. Been training seriously for 4 years now, and been stuck in this 215-220 range for like a year. My problem is that I was a fat kid up until my sophomore year of high school, so I’m paranoid about “getting fat.” I’m by no means shredded right now, and could definitely stand to lose some body fat. I think those two things combined have created this psychological block that keeps me from eating enough.
That and I’m too freaking broke to buy enough food.[/quote]
Why don’t you cut down your body fat then, maybe not to “shredded” levels, but so that you can start bulking up a bit and have some margin of error. Like, “Even if I gain a bit of fat, I’ll still look good. But I’ll try not to gain fat regardless.” You know what I’m saying?
And you can get chicken breast and broccoli and shit pretty cheap. Also, fats are a cheap, calorie-dense way to get a bit of extra calories in. I mean, just put a bit of olive oil on your food or whatever to help you gain. I’d recommend milk, but I’m convinced it’s a horribly unhealthy thing. I learned from experience. “Squats and milk” needs to be re-evaluated for the 21st century.
squats and eggs?
to OP , yes itis a challenge for real tall guys to fill out. But it can be done. may also be largely genetic how easily it comes or not for you.
but look at real tall bbers like Noah Steere and some others as proof.
my feeling is that you gonna have to lift super heavy poundages to get the muscle grwoth necessary to fill out long limbs. good luck
and post some pics.
[quote]Artem wrote:
jhusk wrote:
This is why this site rocks.
6’6", 215-220 here. Been training seriously for 4 years now, and been stuck in this 215-220 range for like a year. My problem is that I was a fat kid up until my sophomore year of high school, so I’m paranoid about “getting fat.” I’m by no means shredded right now, and could definitely stand to lose some body fat. I think those two things combined have created this psychological block that keeps me from eating enough.
That and I’m too freaking broke to buy enough food.
Why don’t you cut down your body fat then, maybe not to “shredded” levels, but so that you can start bulking up a bit and have some margin of error. Like, “Even if I gain a bit of fat, I’ll still look good. But I’ll try not to gain fat regardless.” You know what I’m saying?
And you can get chicken breast and broccoli and shit pretty cheap. Also, fats are a cheap, calorie-dense way to get a bit of extra calories in. I mean, just put a bit of olive oil on your food or whatever to help you gain. I’d recommend milk, but I’m convinced it’s a horribly unhealthy thing. I learned from experience. “Squats and milk” needs to be re-evaluated for the 21st century.
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That’s actually exactly what I’m doing. Trying to lean down so I have a solid base on which to really put on size.
[quote]Artem wrote:
jhusk wrote:
This is why this site rocks.
6’6", 215-220 here. Been training seriously for 4 years now, and been stuck in this 215-220 range for like a year. My problem is that I was a fat kid up until my sophomore year of high school, so I’m paranoid about “getting fat.” I’m by no means shredded right now, and could definitely stand to lose some body fat. I think those two things combined have created this psychological block that keeps me from eating enough.
That and I’m too freaking broke to buy enough food.
Why don’t you cut down your body fat then, maybe not to “shredded” levels, but so that you can start bulking up a bit and have some margin of error. Like, “Even if I gain a bit of fat, I’ll still look good. But I’ll try not to gain fat regardless.” You know what I’m saying?
And you can get chicken breast and broccoli and shit pretty cheap. Also, fats are a cheap, calorie-dense way to get a bit of extra calories in. I mean, just put a bit of olive oil on your food or whatever to help you gain. I’d recommend milk, but I’m convinced it’s a horribly unhealthy thing. I learned from experience. “Squats and milk” needs to be re-evaluated for the 21st century.
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That’s actually exactly what I’m doing. Trying to lean down so I have a solid base on which to really put on size.
What do you guys think of Bill Star’s 5x5 program for us tall guys?
I have been doing this program verbatim and making decent results with every lift except the bench. I will try substituting leg press for squats every other week and substituting bench with dumbbell bench too.
[quote]Ruged wrote:
to OP , yes itis a challenge for real tall guys to fill out. But it can be done. may also be largely genetic how easily it comes or not for you.
but look at real tall bbers like Noah Steere and some others as proof.
my feeling is that you gonna have to lift super heavy poundages to get the muscle grwoth necessary to fill out long limbs. good luck
and post some pics.[/quote]
these are pretty recent…few months ago…i’ll try to get more up, with better quality…just click it to enlarge.
Im sorry if some of my post has overlapped other people on here. I did not have the time to read all the pages.
I am 6"4 and my best muscular weight with a trim waist was 232.
First off someone at 190-200lb but under 5"8 is going to look more “thick” then us tall guys. Just less frame to spread the muscle over.
Now say you take a tall guy like us and a shorter guy who are both 230, even though one will look very massive and the other more athletic looking, BOTH will still need to be eating for that much muscle. For some reason tall guys sometime don’t eat enough because they don’t realize how much muscle they actually have. Over 6"2 you will have to be around 220 just to look like you train. Probably over 250 to start turning heads. Look at Quicy Taylor (6’4). Absolutly massive and always over 300lb. However he will probably have a hard time beating much shorter thicker looking competitors like Johnnie Jackson and Branch Warren.
Also like several have mentioned. If you have long limbs some free weight movements will not give you the desired effect. Squats become a glute movement if you have long femurs. ATG squats are just not physically possible for some of these people. If you ever get a chance to do some sets on a Frank Zane squat apparatus this problem can be eliminated. As was mentioned by others please don’t think of leg pressing or hack squating as some how being less manly then free weight squatting. A good leg press for me will do much more then free weight squatting for my legs. I am not the only one. I believe even Dorian Yates preferred the leg press to the squat.
A big bench will always be easier for someone with t-rex arms. Better Leverage. For long limb people I get them to take a 16 inch grip when benching for chest development. I know this is supposed to be a tricep movement but I find the increased adduction of the chest allows for nice growth stimulation in the chest.
I do find alot of taller people have better leverages for pulling movements. Alot of them have backs developed better then there other bodyparts.
Finally do not be afraid of using machines for putting on mass. The idea that free weights put on mass and machines are for finishing/defining/pump or any other word you want to use is simply untrue. The Old style Nautilus Pullover (like the one in my Avatar) has done more for my back then any other back exercise. I still feel it is the best back exercise ever devised. Metroflex has one, Temple Gym has one, and if you have access to it, use it. Hammer Strength makes some great pieces. There wide chest is extremely effective for long limbed individuals due to the great amount of converging of the arms and adduction of the chest.
At the end of the day weather you are short, tall, ectomorph, endomorph, etc you will have your own advantages and limitations to play with. Enjoy the training and find out what works for you.
All the best.
Michael
Not much I can add to this thread. I’m tall, some things come easier than others, but tall or short, it’s hard work no matter how you slice it. Bodybuilding specifically will be more challenging for taller guys, but just getting big and strong I don’t think is at all inherently worse for a tall person than a shorter person.
I recently embraced the leg press after struggling with squats for a long enough time. I can still squat okay, but I leg press a lot better, it feels better on my knees, my back, and my legs. Deadlifts remain my favorite exercise, and I have always preferred dumbbell presses to barbell presses.
Also, I don’t think 6’2 qualifies as tall for the purposes of this conversation. Unless you are pretty disproportionate, I’ve found that it isn’t until about 6’4 or 6’5 that the world stops being built with you in mind.
All things being equal, greater height is advantageous.
[quote]Malevolence wrote:
Also, I don’t think 6’2 qualifies as tall for the purposes of this conversation. Unless you are pretty disproportionate, I’ve found that it isn’t until about 6’4 or 6’5 that the world stops being built with you in mind. [/quote]
This is very true. I find that certain comforts and conveniences are JUST out of my range at 6’4". I’ll test drive a car, put the seat back as far as it can go and realize that its about 3 inches too short. Most jeans available in stores stop right above my ankle, making me look like some crawfish-collecting rube.
The worst, though, is shopping for shoes. Any other size 13s or above here? I go into Foot Locker, get measured, and hear an audible sigh from the attendant as they read out “13”. I see a cool looking pair of shoes and ask if they have it. “I’ll check in the back”. 3 minutes later, “nope, only goes up to 12”. Repeat this about 10 times as your selections become less and less stylish. “Nope, just to 12 sir”. You finally start to lower your standards, looking at shoes you never intended to buy. I mean, is size 12 the cut-off between normal, bipedal human and gangly, stork-like freak?! Finally you ask “well, what DO you have in a 13?” and they emerge 10 minutes later from the backroom with a pair of leopard-print Converse, some all-white Reebok tennis shoes that a circa-1985 stock broker would wear, and a pair of flip-flops made out of molded, neon-coloured polyurethane.
Thanks Foot Locker, although I’m impressed by your selection of larger sizes I’ve opted instead to wrap my feet in burlap sacks.
hmmm maybe it’s because your in japan? lol…Or, do you experience this in the US as well?..I have the same shoe size, and I don’t think i’ve had trouble finding shoes before…
i would think 13 is the equivilant of 6’2" though…anything higher than that you will probably run into trouble…