[quote]cryogen wrote:
[quote]pwolves17 wrote:
[quote]cryogen wrote:
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
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6’4", 240 lbs here. I’ve got some weird leverages that can be both advantages and disadvantages. My bench and shoulder press numbers are abysmal, but yet I’m able to crank out a good number of pull-ups. I also find curls, dumbbell flies and deadlifts to come rather easily.
I have to echo what has been said with squats…if you’re tall, don’t squat just because it’s “hardcore” or out of any sense of inadequacy if you don’t do it…chances are the leg press will yield far better results for you.[/quote]
NO, not even close to being accurate.[/quote]
How is his post “not close to being accurate?” It really can’t be argued that bb’ing training can’t be viewed as one size fits all. Sure, squats and deadlifts are great exercises (2 of my favorites), but if someone’s leverages/height doesn’t allow a squat to target the intended muscle, it makes sense to find alternatives. It’d be silly to keep doing an exercise that isn’t producing the desired results because “you have to be under heavy loads, and only squats and deadlifts can accomplish this! Yeah, hardcore!!!” If you’re going to simply post “NO, not accurate at all,” at least have something of substance to use as an argument[/quote]
Double negatives don’t help your position.
The leverages/height argument is excuse making because they’re hard. OF course they are hard, and they hurt, but they work. That being said, if it’s a belief that they’re not hitting the quads hard enough, add some additional front squats in on another day, change up to a high bar squat. Avoiding things because “you don’t have the right leverages” is nothing more than a cop out. If they’re not having the desired effect, eat more.
Better to build that base at the start, because when the legs are weaker it’ll be easier to get the sticking point up to the same level, and then develop the whole unit.
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Not really sure what you meant by me using double negatives…sorry if it’s obvious but I stand by my post and don’t feel like searching back through it for a grammatical error. I agree with you that some people certainly use leverages or height as an excuse, but I’m assuming that we’re talking about a lifter who is beyond that stage. I don’t do flat barbell bench because I feel my triceps and shoulders more than my chest working throughout the movement. Choosing other chest exercises isn’t being lazy or taking the easy way out, it’s recognizing that I need to find other exercises to target my chest. The same applies to squats/quads, barbell rows/lats, or any other “bread and butter” exercise that is associated as the mass builder for a given muscle group