[quote]3D wrote:
Does anyone have trouble with Squats making their ass grow too much?
I’m 6’2, and this is a problem for me.
I mean, not that I want a puny ass, but when I squat frequently it’s the area that I notice the most.
I’ve recently switched to Front Squats only, and left Deadlifts out of my program because of this, which is bad cos I love to DL. I;ve noticed my quads getting pounded more with Front Squats but my ass still heavily involved too.
I squat 3 times per week, along with a pressing movement and a pull.
I believe this is more so when the person has longer limbs and a shorter torso rather than the other way round.
Anyone have any tips on this? I don’t have a leg press, or any machines in my gym for that matter.[/quote]
I hear you on the growing ass thing, but I’ve decided to not fret-- I squat heavy pretty regularly and if it forces my ass to get bigger to get stronger and stronger then so be it.
I’ve never dropped squats or deads, but I’m pretty positive squats hit my glutes more than deads…if you wanted to try to still dead n maybe cut back on the squats. I know you said you front squat but if you go nice n deep I’m sure that still works the glutes.
Find what works for you (back/front squat, deads/rack pulls, etc) but if you ENJOY and CAN DO squats and deads, man it’s like a crime to not include both. Just my opinion.
[quote]Little Kong wrote:
height: 6’5"
winspan: 6’8"
shoe size: 15
weight: 175 pounds (recovering from back surgery, and my metabolism basically brought me to 150. Its been a pain in the ass to gain back weight)
Tall guys need to work more muscle groups, because it just won’t show unless almost every muscle is worked. Also, machines are a must, because dealing with the kind of free weight needed for hypertrophy is just dangerous. For example a short person can drop their max, and it might not break their bones, but if a big guy drops 400+ on himself, the bones will break.
Why is it that tall guys feel a need to stay in shape as they get older? I think it might be because they hear “Damn! You’re tall!” all the time. So they are aware that people notice their physical appearance. [/quote]
what are you talking about? everyone needs to work all their muscles, and being taller does not mean you can lift more then a shorter person.
6’ 5’’
250 pounds
dead:475x1
squat: working on form but best is 345x2
bench:265 paused
i find legs work with leg press close stance nuetral feet, my back is probably my biggest part from deads, tbar rows, lots of wide pulldowns about 30-40 sets of back through out the week, start fucking eating u ppl that weigh 200-215 and are over 6’ 2’’ is just absurb and u wonder why you dont look filled up, i dont do much direct arm work, 3 sets for bi’s at ends of workouts triceps i do more cuz im a tricep dominant bencher, lots of stiff legged deads my hams are sexy now, benching, flies what ever u need just go hard and heavy. I dont think its exercise selection its just gonna take more time but heres a pro for us tall guys
bigger frame to carry more muscle eventually which would likely mean bigger numbers in the long run if u pursue it hard, squats a bitch
[quote]AmreJyNex wrote:
Little Kong wrote:
height: 6’5"
winspan: 6’8"
shoe size: 15
weight: 175 pounds (recovering from back surgery, and my metabolism basically brought me to 150. Its been a pain in the ass to gain back weight)
Tall guys need to work more muscle groups, because it just won’t show unless almost every muscle is worked. Also, machines are a must, because dealing with the kind of free weight needed for hypertrophy is just dangerous. For example a short person can drop their max, and it might not break their bones, but if a big guy drops 400+ on himself, the bones will break.
Why is it that tall guys feel a need to stay in shape as they get older? I think it might be because they hear “Damn! You’re tall!” all the time. So they are aware that people notice their physical appearance.
wow, only 175lbs? I’m only 6’1’’ but I weigh 170lbs… what’s your BF%? I guess it’s lower than 4%.
And I hope you get well soon.
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Its probably lower than that. My veins are constantly bulging. Almost ripping out of the skin. At least now, I don’t have to worry about body fat while I train.
[quote]asusvenus wrote:
Little Kong wrote:
For example a short person can drop their max, and it might not break their bones, but if a big guy drops 400+ on himself, the bones will break.
Apparently “dropping 400+” on yourself is something one must do.
Little Kong wrote:
Why is it that tall guys feel a need to stay in shape as they get older? I think it might be because they hear “Damn! You’re tall!” all the time. So they are aware that people notice their physical appearance.
Oh, I really didn’t know that tall guys are the only ones caring about their physical appearance.
Honestly you’re kinda full of shit. Kinda. (Much)
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I’m saying tall guys have to lift more to gain more muscle, and if they accidentally drop the weight on themselves, it could go bad. Whereas smaller guys don’t have to lift as much, so the weight is not as dangerous.
I’m 6’3’’ and I never actually whined about my height. It has its good and bad “sides” but shorter guys have it as well.
Only thing I can find relevant is that taller guys might get away with bit higher BF then shorter guys… other then that its just squats and milk for everybody.
And my lifts never got screwed by the fact I’m tall.
BP- 308
DL- 507
SQ- 418 @225 lbs
and BP is only lagging a bit because its my weakest point overall.
how big are everyone’s shits here? I was 6’2" and went from the low 130s to the low 170s in a year. Right now I want to go from 170 to 200 (still probably won’t look filled out probably). For squats I just switched to front and for deadlifts I’ve always done sumo.
[quote]Little Kong wrote:
asusvenus wrote:
Little Kong wrote:
For example a short person can drop their max, and it might not break their bones, but if a big guy drops 400+ on himself, the bones will break.
Apparently “dropping 400+” on yourself is something one must do.
Little Kong wrote:
Why is it that tall guys feel a need to stay in shape as they get older? I think it might be because they hear “Damn! You’re tall!” all the time. So they are aware that people notice their physical appearance.
Oh, I really didn’t know that tall guys are the only ones caring about their physical appearance.
Honestly you’re kinda full of shit. Kinda. (Much)
I’m saying tall guys have to lift more to gain more muscle, and if they accidentally drop the weight on themselves, it could go bad. Whereas smaller guys don’t have to lift as much, so the weight is not as dangerous.
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[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Little Kong wrote:
asusvenus wrote:
Little Kong wrote:
For example a short person can drop their max, and it might not break their bones, but if a big guy drops 400+ on himself, the bones will break.
Apparently “dropping 400+” on yourself is something one must do.
Little Kong wrote:
Why is it that tall guys feel a need to stay in shape as they get older? I think it might be because they hear “Damn! You’re tall!” all the time. So they are aware that people notice their physical appearance.
Oh, I really didn’t know that tall guys are the only ones caring about their physical appearance.
Honestly you’re kinda full of shit. Kinda. (Much)
I’m saying tall guys have to lift more to gain more muscle, and if they accidentally drop the weight on themselves, it could go bad. Whereas smaller guys don’t have to lift as much, so the weight is not as dangerous.
quit being stupid.[/quote]
His logic is kinda flawed. I mean, if shorter guys actually have an easier time benching higher poundages, shouldn’t it be them using machines, as they’d be the ones dropping the REAL heavy ass loads?
I don’t think being tall or short does that much of a difference when having 4-600lbs dropped on you.
This is of course, assuming, that they’d accidently drop the weights… Sigh.
[quote]Little Kong wrote:
height: 6’5"
winspan: 6’8"
shoe size: 15
weight: 175 pounds (recovering from back surgery, and my metabolism basically brought me to 150. Its been a pain in the ass to gain back weight)
Tall guys need to work more muscle groups, because it just won’t show unless almost every muscle is worked. Also, machines are a must, because dealing with the kind of free weight needed for hypertrophy is just dangerous. For example a short person can drop their max, and it might not break their bones, but if a big guy drops 400+ on himself, the bones will break.
Why is it that tall guys feel a need to stay in shape as they get older? I think it might be because they hear “Damn! You’re tall!” all the time. So they are aware that people notice their physical appearance. [/quote]
[quote]eigieinhamr wrote:
HerbertNL wrote:
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I’m doing a full-body program with some HST principles incorporated.
Most people will tell you not to do 3 day TBT if you want optimal gains.[/quote]
I’ve been reading many T-Nation articles regarding proper training, but find it difficult to get a clear summary of advantages and disadvantages of TBT vs bodypart-splits. For instance, I found links in the beginner forums to these two articles.
The first article tells us right away to do TBT three times per week, while the second article argues that training a body part once a week can be sufficient, and that twice per week certainly does the trick. So I assume the author would think three times per week to be too much for one bodypart, let alone all of them.
What would you guys recommend, stick with my current schedule or change to one with bodypart splits (it would have to be a three-day split).
[quote]HerbertNL wrote:
eigieinhamr wrote:
HerbertNL wrote:
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I’m doing a full-body program with some HST principles incorporated.
Most people will tell you not to do 3 day TBT if you want optimal gains.
I’ve been reading many T-Nation articles regarding proper training, but find it difficult to get a clear summary of advantages and disadvantages of TBT vs bodypart-splits. For instance, I found links in the beginner forums to these two articles.
The first article tells us right away to do TBT three times per week, while the second article argues that training a body part once a week can be sufficient, and that twice per week certainly does the trick. So I assume the author would think three times per week to be too much for one bodypart, let alone all of them.
What would you guys recommend, stick with my current schedule or change to one with bodypart splits (it would have to be a three-day split). [/quote]
Welcome to T-Nation
The whole TBT vs split (be it push / pull, upper / lower, arms / legs / back / shoulders / chest, or whatever) debate has been raging for years. Everyone has their own view about what’s right and what’s best.
You ask if you should stick with your current schedule or change, but you don’t give an example of your current workout.
Two things I’d recommend:
If you’ve been following a total body workout plan for at least 4 weeks, then give a split workout a try and see how it works for you, or
Create a new topic explaining your current workout routine and your goals (at the very least) and ask the question again. More people will see it that way, and you’ll be getting a more personalised response.
Hmm… I’m definetly not the tallest guy out there at 5’10’', and am at 143 so far. Been working out only a month and have gained three pounds. I stick with full body workouts and only a little isolation. I wanna get big and heavy, so i eat whenever I can.
However, I DO workout every day… I’m constantly trying to increase the intensity and am trying to cut my time working out. I only work with dumbells, a pull-up bar, and and ab wheel. Personally, I don’t think short people and tall people should train differently. Of course, short people tend to make faster progress, but the priciples for working out remain the same. I’m trying to increase the reps and improve my form. I’m still debating whether I should accelerate or not… I’m also working on cutting down my rest periods.
I don’t train too long, and I don’t think i’ll cut down on working out every day. I dunno. I’m rarely sore the next day, although I’m trying to fix that. I think tall people should focus on their control of their muscles more, if people know what I mean.
Evan Centopani the guy who just won the NY pro in his debut is 6’1 and answers any questions you have. There’s about 175 pages dating back to 2007 lol, I’ve read through about 30, it’s pretty good stuff.
^^ dumbells pullp bar and ab wheel huh?
I’d get a gym membership.
Can’t really go heavy enough with the DB’s to do much with exercises such as squat and deads, not to mention you wwill not have corret form.
[quote]endofallclarity wrote:
Hmm… I’m definetly not the tallest guy out there at 5’10’', and am at 143 so far. Been working out only a month and have gained three pounds. I stick with full body workouts and only a little isolation. I wanna get big and heavy, so i eat whenever I can.
However, I DO workout every day… I’m constantly trying to increase the intensity and am trying to cut my time working out. I only work with dumbells, a pull-up bar, and and ab wheel. Personally, I don’t think short people and tall people should train differently. Of course, short people tend to make faster progress, but the priciples for working out remain the same. I’m trying to increase the reps and improve my form. I’m still debating whether I should accelerate or not… I’m also working on cutting down my rest periods.
I don’t train too long, and I don’t think i’ll cut down on working out every day. I dunno. I’m rarely sore the next day, although I’m trying to fix that. I think tall people should focus on their control of their muscles more, if people know what I mean.[/quote]
Also, out of curiosity…you say you do a TBT routine which is usually a 3x a week kind of deal, but you work out everyday?
[quote]endofallclarity wrote:
Hmm… I’m definetly not the tallest guy out there at 5’10’', and am at 143 so far. Been working out only a month and have gained three pounds. I stick with full body workouts and only a little isolation. I wanna get big and heavy, so i eat whenever I can.
However, I DO workout every day… I’m constantly trying to increase the intensity and am trying to cut my time working out. I only work with dumbells, a pull-up bar, and and ab wheel. Personally, I don’t think short people and tall people should train differently. Of course, short people tend to make faster progress, but the priciples for working out remain the same. I’m trying to increase the reps and improve my form. I’m still debating whether I should accelerate or not… I’m also working on cutting down my rest periods.
I don’t train too long, and I don’t think i’ll cut down on working out every day. I dunno. I’m rarely sore the next day, although I’m trying to fix that. I think tall people should focus on their control of their muscles more, if people know what I mean.[/quote]
If you’ve only been working out for a month, and aren’t what you consider “tall”, then why are you posting about how you “think” tall people should train?
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
AmreJyNex wrote:
Little Kong wrote:
height: 6’5"
winspan: 6’8"
shoe size: 15
weight: 175 pounds (recovering from back surgery, and my metabolism basically brought me to 150. Its been a pain in the ass to gain back weight)
Tall guys need to work more muscle groups, because it just won’t show unless almost every muscle is worked. Also, machines are a must, because dealing with the kind of free weight needed for hypertrophy is just dangerous. For example a short person can drop their max, and it might not break their bones, but if a big guy drops 400+ on himself, the bones will break.
Why is it that tall guys feel a need to stay in shape as they get older? I think it might be because they hear “Damn! You’re tall!” all the time. So they are aware that people notice their physical appearance.
wow, only 175lbs? I’m only 6’1’’ but I weigh 170lbs… what’s your BF%? I guess it’s lower than 4%.
And I hope you get well soon.
I’m only 5’8" and I weigh 205. And I’m skinny. You guys ever try food? I heard it’s good.[/quote]
This is called succeeding as a tall bodybuilder. Did u have to bring your sarcastic little comment into this thread? Why are u even reading this?
Go back to the chocolate factory u little oompa loompa.
