That is MASSSSSIVELY fatiguing
They are safer, I don’t see any other physiological advantage to slow reps.
Cute! Bye bye!
Faster speeds use more ATP.
More distance is covered. Ie.
Running is more energy expensive than walking. Running 200mph at Daytona requires more energy than running 100mph.
Kinda…
ATP usage is directly proportional to ‘tension and time’. A fast rep has more tension at first, then less later, and it’s of shorter duration. A slow rep starts with less tension than a faster rep, but has a more even tension (barring leverage and joint angle changes affecting tension) and for longer. It all comes out very similar with ‘tension and time’.
right, because there isn’t
I’ll get back to you on this
Trying or rather using 1 SuperSlow rep as a substitute for a 20 second interval during a Ventilatory Threshold 1 sortie.
Physiology Lil bro
Cute!
I’m not your bro.
I’m not Lil either
You seem upset
At times I will slow my reps down. Usually not longer than 10 seconds per rep. No more than 5 reps.Sometimes about 5 seconds with heavier weight. No more than 6 reps. Almost always rest pause.
Try two cycles of rest pause dips and chins. I have found for myself experimentation is key. No rest, 1 minute,or two minuets between cycles. Or instead of alternating
Chins,rest one minute and shoot for half the reps as your first set.Same for dips.
Sometimes a set regular dips and chins and the a set of rest pause dips and chins. On the regular set I did not could rep speed. If I have to quess 1/4 or 2/4. Something like that.
I like your idea of three slow rest pause reps. I like the idea of not going to failure.
That’s why I like to use rest pause negative only dips and chins.
Just be careful not to fry your CNS.
Back in the day I would use superslow for up to year or more. Switch it up and return
for another year. So I know the ins and outs.
I always kept my TUL to 60 seconds on pulling moves. 45 seconds with pushing movements. I would shoot got 60- 80 second with the let press or squat. Longer TUL did not produce good results.
It did not matter if I used 10/10 or 10/5
I was mentored by an ex SS master who moved away from the SS dogma. Still using slower control reps.
That’s where I learned to lower my TUL. I was also told I did not always have to go to failure.
I think once I was advanced, I could only progress a little. Once you get to
the point where your strength exceeds your recovery ability, you could set yourself
up for some type of injury regardless of rep speed.
My body will tell me when enough is enough.
DR:
Nice to hear from you! Hope you are well!
I know you remember on the dis-continued site High-intensity.net , where a poster named “Jetro” who posted about rest pause negative only reps. I got the idea from him about rest pause negatives. . He did 4 reps , but I chose 3 reps of 20 seconds each. I take enough deep breaths between reps to keep breathing rate low, generally 4-6 deep breaths. I use this technique on my Nautilus double chest. I pin weight on for negatives. The technique has increased my upper chest better than anything in 45 years of training. I have long passed low hanging fruit on resistance training, as at the intensity I train at requires an alpha type training routine. The cardio has definitely helped my resistance training.
My latest is deadlifts on my Nautilus OME. I use a platform with a 24 inch parallel grip pulldown bar. This allows for an ergonomic grip, plus the platform has the finished deadlift position at the hardest position of the machine’s negative cam. This setup allows a slight reclined-hyperextended position on deadlifts which is the ultimate glute fryer. The breathing rate skyrockets after SuperSlow deadlifts on this particular Nautilus machine, which is why I given some thought of using this movement interspersed during Ventilatory Threshold 1 cardio as an interval contingent. The DL certainly meets the criteria of at least 50 % muscle mass utilization, and nothing is more intense or all-out as SuperSlow deadlifts on an OME.
Keep up your training!
Marc
Thanks, I don’t use SS or slow reps with deadlifts or squats. It’s very hard on the deep muscles of my lower back. They don’t recover as quickly as my erectors.
I do remember very well what’s it like to do squats and deads very slow.
I could probably use it with my low back machine though.
For the most part I do rest pause deadlifts. I stopped doing the SLDL
a long time ago. Now I use a trap bar or heavy DB deadlifts held at
my sides.
I’ve noticed with aging that the lower back muscles fatigue quickly, more-so than when younger. During workouts, I do 3 SuperSlow reps on my Nautilus leverage leg press alternated with SuperSlow deadlifts on the OME. The SuperSlow deadlifts help with lower back muscular fatigue.
Because of low back muscular fatigue of aging, I may be tempted to use my Fulcrumator Kettlebell during Ventilatory Threshold 1 sorties interspersed with 20 second SuperSlow deadlifts on the OME for an interesting version of HIIT!
You might be going too deep on the leg press if your low back is getting really fatigued, basically getting the equivalent to a butt wink on a squat. Obviously, I’m not watching you train so I don’t know for certain. Does your butt start to come off the pad at the bottom?
Thanks! I feel I wasn’t clear as I should have been! My apologies!
My lower lack fatigue happens during day to day activities. While standing, working in the yard, or just strolling walking around the supermarket pushing a cart. I figured I had better start training this area more. The Fulcrumator KB swings target the lower back well. But SuperSlow deadlifts on the OME are in a separate class of horror. The slight leaning back at completion of a rep stresses the traps, grip , lats, lower back, calves, quads, and especially the glutes. It’s like pulling a rolling pin up a mountain while pulling backwards. Horror upon horrors!
The Fulcrumator
ATP, you were on the forum high intensity.net? who were you on there? I posted there too
A lurker only!
FWIW- the posts by Christopher were intriguing such as Leg Press Only, and of course, Jetro’s posts , as well as Vincent’s.
Awesome site! That site lacked the rudeness so common on modern HiT sites. Too bad it’s gone.
oh ok, I used to post there too, I caught up with a few of the people in later years. It was a fun site back then.
It is still available at way back machine.
@ high intensity dot net