He is a D.O. I’ve been on TRT for about 9 months. Started with a T level of 108. I was in the 400’s last test. I don’t recall any of the other numbers at the moment. I went today for bloodwork and to try again to get him to prescribe HCG. He told me if I could bring him studies about its use and other literature supporting its use for TRT, he would prescribe it.
I am currently using 1cc/cyp every two weeks but broken up into EOD injections and .25mg Adex EOD. He admittedly said he didn’t have any experience with TRT but relied on literature I brought him and that is what convinced him to let me have Adex. I have some HCG I obtained and told him I was using it and liked its effects but that wasn’t enough.
If there are any others that might help, please let me know. I stick with him because he has been fairly open-minded as long as I can prove need and he takes my insurance. If I can’t convince him, I will have to find an endo to help me.
I am in the KCMO area so if anyone knows a good endo in the area, please pass that along to me.
Thanks
PS: If anyone is interested, I will post the numbers from the bloodwork when I get them.
Under the principles of HRT, total HPTA shutdown from TRT is a induced LH hormone loss. hCG is the only cost effective LH replacement available.
Another point is that TRT causes testicular atrophy and that can easily lead to sterility.
The above can cause a 24x7 ache - hCG stops that pain.
Small testes alter ones sexual self image and also affects how your wife/GF you.
The testes are the single largest source of pregnenolone production in males. HPTA stops that. Pregnenolone is needed in the brain for normal functioning and for conversion to neural steroids. Loss of pregnenolone levels also reduces DHEA levels.
When men have hCG added to TRT, they report an improvement in mood, or a recovery of a loss.
Do no harm should not allow LH lost, reduced levels of pregnenolone and DHEA; physical disfigurement, metal well being or pain.
No data appears on the scientific literature regarding an oral administration of hCG in humans. But results from this study suggest hCG may be used by the sublingual-enteral route. Despite plasmatic ß-hCG remained undetectable both in Placebo and hCG groups throughout the study, an oral administration of hCG proved to possess therapeutic activity.
Blake, looks like you’re off to a good start, with a reasonable D.O. that is willing to read and learn from current, relevant literature and research.
Inasmuch as women with breast cancer are entitled to breast implants to continue to cosmetically maintain that part of their feminity, a man is entitled to have normal sized testes, even if only he and his significant other see them. It is emasculating for some men to have atrophied testes.
There are other endocrinological benefits of having HCG, not just the direct effect of the LH analog on the Leydig celles.
I recommend a look at the documents at allthingsmale.com, and bring those to your doctor as well.
Good luck. I’d be interested in seeing your test results, by the way.
No data appears on the scientific literature regarding an oral administration of hCG in humans. But results from this study suggest hCG may be used by the sublingual-enteral route. Despite plasmatic ß-hCG remained undetectable both in Placebo and hCG groups throughout the study, an oral administration of hCG proved to possess therapeutic activity.[/quote]
This “study” (unpublishable, I guarantee you, in any reputable journal) in no way demonstrates sublingual effectiveness of HCG.
Its purpose, rather, is to bedazzle with bullshit and sell a stunningly-overpriced protocol.
If I can’t convince him, I will have to find an endo to help me.