Look at the horrible squat form of these Oregon linebackers!! Inflated numbers!!
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Oklahoma State,
Thanks for posting those pictures.
Does anybody have some sample workouts from some universities that you can post?
I will dig out some of my college workout manuals, I have about 10-15. I believe I have 2 Penn State manuals. One from John Thomas one From Chet Furman.
Would it be ok to post because of copy right issues?
Photos are with 455 and 465 - how many reps were they doing?
[quote]OKLAHOMA STATE wrote:
Bauer-
Just out of curiosity, I’m assuming that you were on schlorship and if so probably could’ve gone to a lot of big name schools like Ohio State, maybe Michigan, MSU, Notre Dame, etc…I was wondering if you were aware of Penn State’s HIT regimen during your recruitment or if it was a nasty surprise you discovered once you reported there? [/quote]
For the record, pretty much as soon as 1 Big 10 team offers you a scholarship, every other Big 10 team follows suit, just for the sake of trying to steal you away from your primary Big 10 recruiter.
Anyway, no, I wasn’t fully aware of Penn State’s lifting methods during my recruitment process, which is partly my fault.
I saw the weight room full of a bunch of machines, but I also saw benches, dumbbells up to 180, trap bars, flipping tires, sand bags, farmer walk torpedoes, etc. Little did I know that out of all that equipment, only the machines were going to be used.
So, yeah, it turned out to be a nasty surprise. I wasn’t aware that any form of weight training could be so ineffective. Oh well, I still love the school, some of us just had to work a little harder outside of the program to keep up with the competition…
[quote]Chris Arp wrote:
Oklahoma State,
Thanks for posting those pictures.
Does anybody have some sample workouts from some universities that you can post?
I will dig out some of my college workout manuals, I have about 10-15. I believe I have 2 Penn State manuals. One from John Thomas one From Chet Furman.
Would it be ok to post because of copy right issues?[/quote]
You should be able to find a a sample routine on the website of just about any D-1 college footbal team. I doubt though that you will find much more then basics.
I knew of this one offhand
[quote]OKLAHOMA STATE wrote:
Look at the horrible squat form of these Oregon linebackers!! Inflated numbers!![/quote]
Yes, I agree that they are using very nice form and squatting to parallel. However, this is one school, and a couple former athletes have chimed in defending their respective programs…which still leaves over 100 Div 1A schools unaccounted for. Using these few schools as a representation of all the strength programs is like scooping a glass of water from the ocean and saying “There are no fish in this glass, therefore there are no fish in the ocean.”
[quote]TrenchDawg wrote:
I’ll take a shot…
- Iowa
- LSU
- TCU
- VA Tech
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Wow,
Some TCU love. Every other team I’ve seen listed is a BCS program. I’ve been a Frog fan since childhood. They got back on the right track in 1998 and beat USC and Carson Palmer in the Sun Bowl. They’ve won 10 games or more in 2000, 2002, 2003, and 2005. Last year they beat OU in Norman. They’ve got to be one of the faster teams in the country.
The philosophy is to get gets that can run and move them forward. DBs become linebackers, LBs become Ends and so forth. If anyone got a chance to see them play Baylor last Sunday the Frogs basically swung the momentum in the 3rd quarter. There were about 6 plays in a row where a Baylor player left cramping. TCU didn’t lose a man to cramps.
GO FROGS!!!
[quote]Tuggles wrote:
OKLAHOMA STATE wrote:
The notion that bigtime D1 programs inflate their weight-room numbers is pure bullshit. I can tell you for a fact at Oklahoma State, Oklahoma and Nebraska, squats don’t mean didly if they aren’t below parralel and no one helps a bencher get the weight up.
I’d be willing to bet anyone $100 that schools like USC, FSU, Miami, Texas etc… don’t let their athletes get away with piss-poor form.
I would agree the only lift where I can see some gray area is squat as coaches may have SLIGHTLY different ideas about paralell, but make no mistake they’re still hitting a damn good depth.
And when I talk about differences in paralell coach X may want his players ass to grass where coach Y could be just above ATG yet still paralell or below.
As far as the numbers I threw out at Nebraska I haven’t witnessed these lifts, but they’re from a legit source. Every team has it’s weightroom warriors shit just follow this link and see what some NFL draftees are capable of. Make sure you check out Vernon Davis.
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This is for mario williams, from the fox sports website. Can the squat be a misprint?
AGILITY TESTS
Campus: 4.73 in the 40-yard dash…450-pound bench press…320-pound squat…6% body fat…33 7/8-inch arm length…10-inch hands.
Combine: 4.69 seconds in 40-yard dash.
Spike, my daughter is a student trainer at Baylor. Actually, IF they’d have been in shape, and covered the back on that pass, they may have pulled the upset. She said many of the players show toughness by not wanting to drink. Huh? Really dumb…but the Bears are getting better. Not a strong team though.
[quote]OKLAHOMA STATE wrote:
At OSU the first month of all the freshmen’s workouts are done with minimal weights until they show perfect form on all the lifts. [/quote]
That’s an amazing policy. Should be started MUCH earlier. Like junior high?? Hats off
[quote]Chris Arp wrote:
Even with better talent, which again is arguable these HIT teams should not stand a chance against the power teams.
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You are vastly overestimating the impact of strength and conditioning vs. great talent and coaching.
Besides, Michigan State gets pushed around by everyone. Michigan got absolutely physically blown up by a less-talented Nebraska team last year. When Penn State doesn’t recruit well, they get man-handled.
NOTRE DAME!!!
my top teams
- DeVry
- I.T.T.
- U of Phoenix online
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
I was in the weightroom with a Michigan runningback a coupla’ months ago [here in Houston, I guess he was home for a visit]who was doing anything BUT an HIT style program.
Of course he wasn’t doing a HIT program on his own time during a visit home. Who the hell would?
Most guys I knew on the team looked at even the smallest amount of time home as an amazing opportunity to “gain back” some of what they lost doing HIT training during their time on-campus.
He told me he got the program from his coaches. He shared the whole thing with me, but I only remember certain things. We discussed all kinds of training related philosophy’s. He also didn’t time his rest periods. He just went when he was ready. I asked why and he said the coaches are talkin’ shit the whole time tellin’ you to get back on it.
Interesting article:
http://www.nflhs.com/fitness/features/StrengthTraining_07172006_jjc.asp
Strongest College Football Team?
NOT! Penn State… major ass whoopin’ today haha!
I like the Noles baby. We went into Miami’s house and shook it up. Penn State went to South Bend and got pulverized.
NOLES!!! …best college football team since Charlie Ward played there. Florida State players end up all over the NFL and are picked up like crazy on draft day.
[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
Strongest College Football Team?
NOT! Penn Sate… major ass whoopin’ today haha!
I like the Noles baby. We went into Miamis’ house and shook it up. Penn State went to South Bend and got pulverized.
NOLES!!! …best college football team since Charlie Ward played there. Florida State players end up all over the NFL and are picked up like crazy on draft day.[/quote]
You may be right, becase I think Miami’s defense is very good and FSU was able to beat them.
Penn State looked bad, Notre Dame has a great game plan. I am not sure they can hang with the big boys when it comes to talent and speed? Ohio State exposed that last year.
Iowa was a diapointment or Syracuse is pretty good. Syracuses defense looked good.
[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
Strongest College Football Team?
NOT! Penn State… major ass whoopin’ today haha!
I like the Noles baby. We went into Miami’s house and shook it up. Penn State went to South Bend and got pulverized.
NOLES!!! …best college football team since Charlie Ward played there. Florida State players end up all over the NFL and are picked up like crazy on draft day.[/quote]
You’re kidding right?
First of all…
The Hurricanes hold the record for most players selected in the first round in a single draft (6, in 2004);
most first-round draft picks in a two-year period (11, from 2003 to 2004);
most first-round draft picks in a three-year period (15, from 2002 through 2004);
and most first-round picks in a four-year period (19, from 2001 through 2004).
For the past 12 years, from 1994 through 2006, Miami has had at least one player selected in the first round of the NFL draft.
Second of all…
Shook them up?? It was 13-10?!!??!
[quote]TriGWU wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:
Strongest College Football Team?
NOT! Penn State… major ass whoopin’ today haha!
I like the Noles baby. We went into Miami’s house and shook it up. Penn State went to South Bend and got pulverized.
NOLES!!! …best college football team since Charlie Ward played there. Florida State players end up all over the NFL and are picked up like crazy on draft day.
You’re kidding right?
First of all…
The Hurricanes hold the record for most players selected in the first round in a single draft (6, in 2004);
most first-round draft picks in a two-year period (11, from 2003 to 2004);
most first-round draft picks in a three-year period (15, from 2002 through 2004);
and most first-round picks in a four-year period (19, from 2001 through 2004).
For the past 12 years, from 1994 through 2006, Miami has had at least one player selected in the first round of the NFL draft.
Second of all…
Shook them up?? It was 13-10?!!??! [/quote]
Best ever?
The Miami team that beat Nebraska in 2001 I believe. The team that nearly killed Tim Crouch.