legitimate LMAO ^
EPIC fight, make it happen BLAF.
[quote]rundymc wrote:
legitimate LMAO ^
EPIC fight, make it happen BLAF.[/quote]
Glad someone got the joke.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]rundymc wrote:
legitimate LMAO ^
EPIC fight, make it happen BLAF.[/quote]
Glad someone got the joke.[/quote]
HAHAHAHA
jokes aside If Fedor fights it should be against the loser of Werdum/Overeem
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Kalle wrote:
The argument that Fedor hasn’t fought anyone in years is just dumb. [/quote]
I agree, but that’s how people think. After BJ Penn loses to John Fitch they’ll probably be saying that about him too.
[/quote]
Only if ken florian, diego sanchez, sean sherk, etc get cut from the ufc and fight for a different organization
[quote]Kalle wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Kalle wrote:
The argument that Fedor hasn’t fought anyone in years is just dumb. [/quote]
I agree, but that’s how people think. After BJ Penn loses to John Fitch they’ll probably be saying that about him too.
[/quote]
Only if ken florian, diego sanchez, sean sherk, etc get cut from the ufc and fight for a different organization [/quote]
If loses to Fitch, apparently Fitch is on a China Study diet vegan kick and is now 176 pounds. As a wrestler who works his TD’s from the clinch I don’t think this bodes well for him. 90 grams of protein a day? Meat once or twice a week? 3 to 1 fruit to meat ratio? Not saying this is the end for him but it is kind of funny.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
Interesting[/quote]
Sounds good. Would love to see him modernize his game and continue ad to his legacy.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]Kalle wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Kalle wrote:
The argument that Fedor hasn’t fought anyone in years is just dumb. [/quote]
I agree, but that’s how people think. After BJ Penn loses to John Fitch they’ll probably be saying that about him too.
[/quote]
Only if ken florian, diego sanchez, sean sherk, etc get cut from the ufc and fight for a different organization [/quote]
If loses to Fitch, apparently Fitch is on a China Study diet vegan kick and is now 176 pounds. As a wrestler who works his TD’s from the clinch I don’t think this bodes well for him. 90 grams of protein a day? Meat once or twice a week? 3 to 1 fruit to meat ratio? Not saying this is the end for him but it is kind of funny.[/quote]
Pretty sure Jake Shields is on a similar diet and IMO didn’t look that strong/ well condtioned in his fight against Kampmann could also be first time cutting to 170 in awhile.
[quote]Kalle wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]Kalle wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Kalle wrote:
The argument that Fedor hasn’t fought anyone in years is just dumb. [/quote]
I agree, but that’s how people think. After BJ Penn loses to John Fitch they’ll probably be saying that about him too.
[/quote]
Only if ken florian, diego sanchez, sean sherk, etc get cut from the ufc and fight for a different organization [/quote]
If loses to Fitch, apparently Fitch is on a China Study diet vegan kick and is now 176 pounds. As a wrestler who works his TD’s from the clinch I don’t think this bodes well for him. 90 grams of protein a day? Meat once or twice a week? 3 to 1 fruit to meat ratio? Not saying this is the end for him but it is kind of funny.[/quote]
Pretty sure Jake Shields is on a similar diet and IMO didn’t look that strong/ well condtioned in his fight against Kampmann could also be first time cutting to 170 in awhile.
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From what I’ve read Jake incorporates more protein, there was an article detailing both of their diets, but I can’t find it. Jake eats fake meat, eggs, takes protein powder etc… When will people understand that we were meant to consume a variety of foods?
I don’t think being a veggie is all that bad- if done well.
easier to digest these guys are not strength atheletes.
Am I saying being a vegan is the best way -no.
I did it for years, while competing always had decent strength levels,
and great energy and recovery.
You get to eat allot more food, and allot of variety.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]Kalle wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Kalle wrote:
The argument that Fedor hasn’t fought anyone in years is just dumb. [/quote]
I agree, but that’s how people think. After BJ Penn loses to John Fitch they’ll probably be saying that about him too.
[/quote]
Only if ken florian, diego sanchez, sean sherk, etc get cut from the ufc and fight for a different organization [/quote]
If loses to Fitch, apparently Fitch is on a China Study diet vegan kick and is now 176 pounds. As a wrestler who works his TD’s from the clinch I don’t think this bodes well for him. 90 grams of protein a day? Meat once or twice a week? 3 to 1 fruit to meat ratio? Not saying this is the end for him but it is kind of funny.[/quote]
That’s odd, I just saw a recent video of him going through his diet and he was in fact eating meat.
[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
I don’t think being a veggie is all that bad- if done well.
easier to digest these guys are not strength atheletes.
Am I saying being a vegan is the best way -no.
I did it for years, while competing always had decent strength levels,
and great energy and recovery.
You get to eat allot more food, and allot of variety.
[/quote]
I’ve never been a fan of the over consumption of protein. Can anyone tell me what substance if over consumed is actually good for you? I know the supplement companies love to push the protein and can point out studies of how eating 600000 grams of protein daily increases your bicep growth by 5 inches, and your bench by 200 pounds, but I’m not buying it.
However, a really good balanced diet is essential. And that includes a proper amount of protein. But you can still get the proper amount and avoid meat, it’s just more difficult.
Fitch’s diet will not be a factor one way or the other in the upcoming fight. What will be a factor is his heart vs Penn’s lack of heart. And his stamina vs Penn’s lack of stamina. And of course his size advantage. There are many reasons that I think Fitch will win.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
I don’t think being a veggie is all that bad- if done well.
easier to digest these guys are not strength atheletes.
Am I saying being a vegan is the best way -no.
I did it for years, while competing always had decent strength levels,
and great energy and recovery.
You get to eat allot more food, and allot of variety.
[/quote]
I’ve never been a fan of the over consumption of protein. Can anyone tell me what substance if over consumed is actually good for you? I know the supplement companies love to push the protein and can point out studies of how eating 600000 grams of protein daily increases your bicep growth by 5 inches, and your bench by 200 pounds, but I’m not buying it.
However, a really good balanced diet is essential. And that includes a proper amount of protein. But you can still get the proper amount and avoid meat, it’s just more difficult.
Fitch’s diet will not be a factor one way or the other in the upcoming fight. What will be a factor is his heart vs Penn’s lack of heart. And his stamina vs Penn’s lack of stamina. And of course his size advantage. There are many reasons that I think Fitch will win. [/quote]
but 90 grams a day and he was eating vegan chile in the video
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
I don’t think being a veggie is all that bad- if done well.
easier to digest these guys are not strength atheletes.
Am I saying being a vegan is the best way -no.
I did it for years, while competing always had decent strength levels,
and great energy and recovery.
You get to eat allot more food, and allot of variety.
[/quote]
I’ve never been a fan of the over consumption of protein. Can anyone tell me what substance if over consumed is actually good for you? I know the supplement companies love to push the protein and can point out studies of how eating 600000 grams of protein daily increases your bicep growth by 5 inches, and your bench by 200 pounds, but I’m not buying it.
However, a really good balanced diet is essential. And that includes a proper amount of protein. But you can still get the proper amount and avoid meat, it’s just more difficult.
Fitch’s diet will not be a factor one way or the other in the upcoming fight. What will be a factor is his heart vs Penn’s lack of heart. And his stamina vs Penn’s lack of stamina. And of course his size advantage. There are many reasons that I think Fitch will win. [/quote]
but 90 grams a day and he was eating vegan chile in the video[/quote]
Was it really 90 grams? Maybe I saw a different video, I don’t know. But the 90 grams a day isn’t going to hurt him. As was previously stated he’s not a strength athlete trying to build muscle. If it were me I would probably be eating more. But then again I don’t think it will hurt him against Penn. You see, I don’t give Penn much of a chance against Fitch.
(You’re supposed to respond about why Penn will win - Then we can get a really good debate going:)
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
I don’t think being a veggie is all that bad- if done well.
easier to digest these guys are not strength atheletes.
Am I saying being a vegan is the best way -no.
I did it for years, while competing always had decent strength levels,
and great energy and recovery.
You get to eat allot more food, and allot of variety.
[/quote]
I’ve never been a fan of the over consumption of protein. Can anyone tell me what substance if over consumed is actually good for you? I know the supplement companies love to push the protein and can point out studies of how eating 600000 grams of protein daily increases your bicep growth by 5 inches, and your bench by 200 pounds, but I’m not buying it.
However, a really good balanced diet is essential. And that includes a proper amount of protein. But you can still get the proper amount and avoid meat, it’s just more difficult.
Fitch’s diet will not be a factor one way or the other in the upcoming fight. What will be a factor is his heart vs Penn’s lack of heart. And his stamina vs Penn’s lack of stamina. And of course his size advantage. There are many reasons that I think Fitch will win. [/quote]
but 90 grams a day and he was eating vegan chile in the video[/quote]
Was it really 90 grams? Maybe I saw a different video, I don’t know. But the 90 grams a day isn’t going to hurt him. As was previously stated he’s not a strength athlete trying to build muscle. If it were me I would probably be eating more. But then again I don’t think it will hurt him against Penn. You see, I don’t give Penn much of a chance against Fitch.
(You’re supposed to respond about why Penn will win - Then we can get a really good debate going:)[/quote]
Penn is back to doing roadwork=conditioning
Fitch throws really basic combos
Everybody who has tried to clinch TD Penn has been unsuccessful
Fitch does not possess the speed of an Edgar or St Pierre, or the standup
Fitch is similar to Matt Hughes
Fitch’s new diet has resulted in weight loss he now weighs 176 pounds BJ around 167
BJ is better on the ground BJJ wise, see Paulo Thiago fight rd 1
BJ’s jab and takedown defense will win him this fight
Can I play. Penn will win because I think he will lose. I think Fitch is GSP light and that is an all around horrible opponent for BJ. Fitch will apply similar pressure and get a similar decision. Since I have proven to be wrong more than I am right, Penn will trounce Fitch, by whatever I think he can’t possibly do.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
Penn is back to doing roadwork=conditioning[/quote]
If you are correct and none of us know, that is good for Penn. But if you recall they almost always hype Penn with something like “this time BJ is really training the cardio.” So who knows, but like I said if you are correct that will help him greatly.
I think you’re right. But since when doesn’t a mastery of basics help you win? He throws them exceptionally well and with his longer reach and taller stature he could out strike Penn.
Not everyone if I recall GSP took him down from a clinch. That was after he wore him out of course.
I agree he is slower than Edgar, but not much slower than GSP. And I don’t think it’s the speed that will win Fitch the fight anyway.
Huges wishes he was as good as Fitch. With that said they have similarities. But if I recall correctly Hughes gave penn a tremendous beating in their second fight. Do you think Penn is better than he was 3 or 4 years ago? I think Penn is on the other side of his career. And if he didn’t defeat Hughes so spectacularly he may have retired. Either way that victory over Hughes didn’t prove much to me. I would rather have seen Penn go the distance and out gut Hughes because that’s the only way he beats Fitch. And frankly I don’t see him lasting- But I have seen him quit before without tapping, but just going through the motions when he knows he’s lost the fight.
That means that Fitch is closer to the weight limit than he has been for other fights. Those of us who have cut weight for wrestling, or any other combat sport know that sucking a great deal of weight right before a fight does not help. This is a plus for Fitch.
If you say Fitch is like Hughes and Hughes owned Penn in fight 2, and Fitch is well known of L&P then I’d say once again that Fitch has the advantage.
[quote]BJ’s jab and takedown defense will win him this fight
[/quote]
It’s the only way he wins if he’s going to win. But as I said I think Fitch’s longer arms and solid basic boxing will nullify Penn’s superior boxing (if it is superior). As for his takedown defense it is great no question, but how great is it after 7 or 8 minutes of fighting?
You have some good points but I’ll stick with Fitch.
[quote]Robert A wrote:
Can I play. Penn will win because I think he will lose. I think Fitch is GSP light and that is an all around horrible opponent for BJ. Fitch will apply similar pressure and get a similar decision. Since I have proven to be wrong more than I am right, Penn will trounce Fitch, by whatever I think he can’t possibly do.[/quote]
You are spot on with the GSP Fitch comparison.
can we start a ufc 127 thread already…
I would but thats what all you people are for.
my little spy’s and the google machine told me Hughes went out to train and help with
penn and play his Fitch
not a such a badk idea- Hughes when smart has similar clinch work
and he is strong like bull.
I think Penn Hughes 3 was more about Matt’s chin, and BJ being angry.
yet Penn has power to spare.
Penn is the better striker
Penn has supreme TDD
and a ridicules chin.
BJ is a handful for anyone- unless you can either outclass or break him.
GSP did both Fitch might do it but who would care its win win for Penn.
Win or loose Give baby jay some credit
fought all over the map
go watch fat baby jay fight machida- Fitch isn’ going to hit him anything like that.
but Fitch is likley to grind out some boring fight.
I just want to add that watching fedor lose was like the day you realize your dad isn’t superman.
On the bright side, fedor is going to be doing a training camp in another country and training against some fighters that are very skilled in BJJ.