[quote]pch2 wrote:
So what do people mean when they say a movement adds width to a muscle rather than height?
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I think this is poor wording on their part. A movement can be used to add width or thickness to a body part but not a muscle.
You can focus on working your lats to create a wider back, or rhomboids/lower traps for a thicker back. You can work your medial delts to create wider shoulders, or your anterior and posterior delts to create thicker shoulders, etc.
If you are going to use that phrase, I would change the wording to:
“A movement can add width or thickness to a body part not a muscle belly.”
Reason I ask is this- If you don’t weigh very much, like less than 150 lbs. or so, you won’t have to build a whole lot to get a 2x dead lift. About the only thing you have to do is get better at the lift.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Something I found illustrative was this book:
Strength Training Anatomy
Your illustrated guide to muscles at work.
Frederic Delavier
It’s not a discussion on training in any way, but it has drawings (the body without skin so to speak) that highlight muscles used in many common lifts.
Use the link on my profile page and I’ll earn a buck if you buy it off Amazon… ;)[/quote]
Vroom and I agree on this. This book is great. I bought it, read it, then gave it to my son when he became interested in lifting.
If you prefer a different source for lifting anatomy, try this site:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
All of the anatomy aside,
How much do you weigh?
Are you female?
What is your current dead lift?
Reason I ask is this- If you don’t weigh very much, like less than 150 lbs. or so, you won’t have to build a whole lot to get a 2x dead lift. About the only thing you have to do is get better at the lift.
[quote]pch2 wrote:
All the debate over the new CW article has me a bit confused. I have been training with the assumption that hitting my strength goals will lead to hitting my aesthetic goals. I have been working toward deadlifting 2x bodyweight; is this conflicting with my desire for a smaller waist? Should I reevaluate? I would like to be able to pick up heavy things and have that .7 ratio. [/quote]
Here is a video of Coleman doing a set of 2 deadlifts with 800 lbs.
IMO, he has a great shoulder/waist taper. I don’t know how often he deadlifts.
I’m no expert, but I have over 2x deadlift, and my waist got smaller than when I started (41 in to 37 in).
[quote]pch2 wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
All of the anatomy aside,
How much do you weigh?
Are you female?
What is your current dead lift?
Reason I ask is this- If you don’t weigh very much, like less than 150 lbs. or so, you won’t have to build a whole lot to get a 2x dead lift. About the only thing you have to do is get better at the lift.
140, yes, 3RM 175
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So, your one rep max is at least 200 already, and please excuse the assumption, but I guesss you haven’t been training long?
I would be willing to bet that with some technique training followed by some low rep/near max training, you could easily get the 80 lbs. that you want on that lift without ruining your proportions.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
pch2 wrote:
So what do people mean when they say a movement adds width to a muscle rather than height?
That is ebonics for “this mutherfucker doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about”. [/quote]
LOL! Ever the subtle one.
I remember reading years ago in one of the mags where somebody was talking about how certain angles on curls would give you the Beckles peak on your biceps and pulling your upper arm to precise angle relative to your shoulders would make your lats wider etc.
Like the Professor said they either get bigger in response to work and nutrients or smaller in the absence either or both. I guess I can imagine some infinitesimally slight engineering being possible, but not to any degree worth pursuing.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Something I found illustrative was this book:
Strength Training Anatomy
Your illustrated guide to muscles at work.
Frederic Delavier
It’s not a discussion on training in any way, but it has drawings (the body without skin so to speak) that highlight muscles used in many common lifts.
Use the link on my profile page and I’ll earn a buck if you buy it off Amazon… ;)[/quote]