Strength = Muscle. A Higher Standard

My bad, guys. I should have clarified:

I didn’t mean to imply that a powerlifter can’t be aesthetic or that a bodybuilder can’t be strong. I wa just kinda saying they tend to look a little different.

this kid is aesthetics as fuck and was one of the best teen power lifters in aus…

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543699_496872733695092_769416569_n.jpg

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I guess I should also say you probably won’t be doing a lot of that at a lighter body weight unless you have freak strength genetics…so obviously to get to that strength level, building that solid base of muscle is most important which usually involves working directly on increasing muscular body weight for a while…[/quote]

That’s the point of this thread. Without opening a body weight debate, I truly believe chasing huge #'s, does result in the best gains. Chances are when you’re hitting certain benchmarks, you’ll have achieved a certain level of physique/body weight, even if you were to never place focus on that in the 1st place. I can’t help but notice the biggest ppl in the gym are always the strongest.

[quote]Ironfreak wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I guess I should also say you probably won’t be doing a lot of that at a lighter body weight unless you have freak strength genetics…so obviously to get to that strength level, building that solid base of muscle is most important which usually involves working directly on increasing muscular body weight for a while…[/quote]

That’s the point of this thread. Without opening a body weight debate, I truly believe chasing huge #'s, does result in the best gains. Chances are when you’re hitting certain benchmarks, you’ll have achieved a certain level of physique/body weight, even if you were to never place focus on that in the 1st place. I can’t help but notice the biggest ppl in the gym are always the strongest. [/quote]

Hey, I have been saying the same for years but apparently I am “ruining threads” by saying it now.

Agree completely.

[quote]Ironfreak wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I guess I should also say you probably won’t be doing a lot of that at a lighter body weight unless you have freak strength genetics…so obviously to get to that strength level, building that solid base of muscle is most important which usually involves working directly on increasing muscular body weight for a while…[/quote]

That’s the point of this thread. Without opening a body weight debate, I truly believe chasing huge #'s, does result in the best gains. Chances are when you’re hitting certain benchmarks, you’ll have achieved a certain level of physique/body weight, even if you were to never place focus on that in the 1st place. I can’t help but notice the biggest ppl in the gym are always the strongest. [/quote]

I agree.

When I was younger I did a standard BB split and set/rep scheme. All it did was make me look more toned with no real added mass.

This time around I started with powerlifting and built my basic lifts up, and now that I’ve started to do some hypertrophy work I’m starting to fill out in ways I never did before. I attribute this directly to a mix of lifting with significantly heavier weights and carrying a significantly higher body mass than I did before.

[quote]
Why is there a different “look” to a BBer and a PLer of VERY SIMILAR STATS*?

I feel like a BBer will have a certain “look” that seems to have fuller muscle belly’s, more even development of all muscles, and "more aesthetic.

Where as I feel like a PLer will hav a certain “look” that seems to be a bit denser, blockier, and generally more “brick shit house” look and a little "less aesthetic.[/quote]

I’m going to take a wild guess and say range of motion and exercise selection.

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]deadliftgoal500 wrote:
From Dante:

If the most productive exercises for Bobs body is incline presses, deadlifts, dumbell curls, close grip benchs, shoulder presses, chins, calf presses, squats and leg curls, do you really think that superslow training, or other Psychoanalytical techniques are going to make Bob a superhumanly large bodybuilder? With eating enough food to get him up to every new strength and size level, and whatever else he decides, supplements, drugs, extreme stretching etc to get there the bottom line is this:

455 for 15rp on the incline bench
500 for 10 reps on the deadlift
90lb dumbell curls for 20rp
425 for 20rp on the close grip
315lbs for 15-20rp on the military
150lb rack chins for 20rp
600lb calf presses extreme stretched for 12
550 for 4-5 and 405 for 15-20 reps on the squat
the weight stack and chained plates for 15-30rp on the leg curl

IS GOING TO MAKE BOB A MONSTROUS MUSCULAR INDIVIDUAL.[/quote]

I remember reading this from Dante several times throughout the years.

I like 455 on incline bench. :)[/quote]
Lol I’ve gotten the 500 lbs deadlift for 10+ reps, and that’s it from this list :([/quote]

Same here lol! I’m certainly not a monster though