[quote]drewh wrote:
Why is it so hard for people to believe that weight lifting strength is not that important.[/quote]
because it’s not true.
I agree; The study did not have conclusive evidence that facial features indicate ability to fight.
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
Professor X wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
The article was about the perception of strength and fighting ability right?
So why the hub-bub about actual fighting ability?
Any of you ever look at someone and just get that innate sense of “Don’t fuck with that guy” ?
Not here. Unless you specifically know the top three moves in MMA with exceptional form and technique, you don’t know how to handle yourself at all.
Clearly, people simply don’t exist who can fuck you up without any formal training.
Buh-buh-but Professor…surely yoo can’t be serials? I mean, I kno a guy who can beat up maountain lionz and stuff, and he only has A GED soooo…
Ur obviously a idiot.[/quote]
Sure, but is that guys ged in mma, Gracie ju-jitsu, and tandori la-la-lumpki?
If not then there is someone, probably on this here thread, who can rear naked choke his ass 3 ways to sunday while getting a blowjob from a pirannah.
ps. I once threw a golf ball through a grizzly bear. I was trained to do so by by a humble little monk type dude who lives in the eastern foothills of the himilayas.
Believe it. It’s on the internet.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
ps. I once threw a golf ball through a grizzly bear. [/quote]
damn.
long-ways or side-ways?
I’ve got side-ways down, no problem.
But can’t seem to get the hang of the length-wise technique.
Wait, do I just need to get stronger?
[quote]miroku333 wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
ps. I once threw a golf ball through a grizzly bear.
damn.
long-ways or side-ways?
I’ve got side-ways down, no problem.
But can’t seem to get the hang of the length-wise technique.
Wait, do I just need to get stronger?
;)[/quote]
Aim for the anus. That way, less force is required for penetration, and more can be imparted to the insides of the grizzly.
My Sensei always used to say: Aim for the anus! Aim for the Anus!
drewh wrote:
Why is it so hard for people to believe that weight lifting strength is not that important.
because it’s not true.
Give me multiple examples like I did and maybe I will believe you.
[quote]miroku333 wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
ps. I once threw a golf ball through a grizzly bear.
damn.
long-ways or side-ways?
I’ve got side-ways down, no problem.
But can’t seem to get the hang of the length-wise technique.
Wait, do I just need to get stronger?
;)[/quote]
Long ways, straight through the skull and the proper exit from the anus. That rear entry stuff Vicomte is talking is just crazy.
The hydrostatic pressure alone turned its ribs to jelly.
[quote]drewh wrote:
drewh wrote:
Why is it so hard for people to believe that weight lifting strength is not that important.
because it’s not true.
Give me multiple examples like I did and maybe I will believe you.
[/quote]
seriously, it doesn’t bother me if you don’t believe the facts.
you can believe whatever you want man.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
miroku333 wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
ps. I once threw a golf ball through a grizzly bear.
damn.
long-ways or side-ways?
I’ve got side-ways down, no problem.
But can’t seem to get the hang of the length-wise technique.
Wait, do I just need to get stronger?
Long ways, straight through the skull and the proper exit from the anus. That rear entry stuff Vicomte is talking is just crazy.
The hydrostatic pressure alone turned its ribs to jelly.
[/quote]
I’ll keep practicing, thanks for the advice!
It seems to me that obviously strength and size does matter, as shown by weight divisions in pretty much all mma, boxing etc events.
The heavyweights would pretty much dominate all the other divisions easily, even if the lighter fighters were more skilled.
Showing that skill and speed being equal (or even slightly worse) size and strength wins…
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i wonder if their necks were visible too? i mean thats kind of a variable, someone born with facial structure related to T wouldnt nesecarily have the other parts as developed. whereas someone who wasnt exposed to as high t-levels could still develop a large neck which is often corresponded with strength.[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing.
[quote]aussie101 wrote:
It seems to me that obviously strength and size does matter, as shown by weight divisions in pretty much all mma, boxing etc events.
The heavyweights would pretty much dominate all the other divisions easily, even if the lighter fighters were more skilled.
Showing that skill and speed being equal (or even slightly worse) size and strength wins…[/quote]
However, a strong 5’10 fighter could still whup a ‘big’ 6’4 fat guy.
You can be ‘smaller’ than someone height and weight-wise, while still being stronger due to having more developed muscles.
they are not facts youve displayed no facts are you stupid or something
[quote]drewh wrote:
Oh my god x come on I guarantee you do not punch harder than floyd mayweather, or anderson silva. These men surely could beat you in a fight. And on punching It’s physics what’s going to cause more damage a bullet or me throwing a baseball at you. Hmmmmmm lets think about that. And thinking Foreman punched slow, your dreaming. Why is it so hard for people to believe that weight lifting strength is not that important. Randy Couture, Wanderlei Silva,Antonio Noguera, Many of these men do not even lift weights yet would demolish a powerlifter or someone much stronger.[/quote]
Yes, yes they do lift weights.
[quote]aussie101 wrote:
It seems to me that obviously strength and size does matter, as shown by weight divisions in pretty much all mma, boxing etc events.
The heavyweights would pretty much dominate all the other divisions easily, even if the lighter fighters were more skilled.
Showing that skill and speed being equal (or even slightly worse) size and strength wins…[/quote]
STOP USING LOGIC!!! THAT’S AGAINST INTERNET FIGHTING RULES!!!1
[quote]drewh wrote:
they are not facts youve displayed no facts are you stupid or something [/quote]
Where are your fucking facts?
[quote]drewh wrote:
they are not facts youve displayed no facts are you stupid or something [/quote]
yes they are. you are quite correct, I didn’t display them. and no, my punctuation keys work just fine.
j/k lighten up man. you can believe what you want, I’m not trying to sway your allegiance.
have a great night.
i would definately say weight and strength matters. i was wrestling around with my friend whos like 5’9 150-60ish the other night, we arent really technicians by any means so we just kept putting eachother in guillotines and stuff. i got him in one standing and lifted him up to where he was near where he was getting vertical and i was just holding him there, if i wanted to be a dick im sure that with a little hip drive and an arch i couldve had him completly inverted and probaly done something really bad to his neck, like broke it.
if you guys wanna go out fighting people 10x your size cause you think you got skillz or whatever go for it. ill keep my teeth and be cool. because the reality is most people bigger than me arent people i want to fuck with.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
drewh wrote:
Ok first of all the faster you can punch the greater the impact, so again strength (in weight room terms)does not matter.
HA!
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Yes, a really fast punching 120lbs midget will be able to do more damage than the slower punch of George Foreman in his prime.
Sure. You keep telling yourself that. LOL!
I swear shit like this must allow some of you smaller guys to sleep better at night…until you actually have to fight someone who can throw a punch and outweighs you by 100lbs.[/quote]
I second X’s laugh!
Force = mass x acceleration. So if you have a lot of mass you only need a moderately amount of speed to produce a massive amount of force. I would rather get hit by a plastic wiffle ball at 30 mph than a baseball. Common sense.
In any case I grew up learning wrestling and marital arts from a young age (5). I have studied Gracie Jui Jitsu since the early 90’s when it first started making the the rounds. I have also been in way too many fights, stabbed twice and sliced 3 times. Now I am a relatively little guy (185 at 5"9") but from all that senseless fighting I learned three things:
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Don’t fight unless you absolutely have to.
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Don’t fight somebody bigger than you without a weapon.
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Don’t even fight somebody your size without a weapon – because they still will probably hurt you pretty bad.
These little guys that say size or strength doesn’t matter need a little beat down to show them just how mistaken they are.
I am amazed that this always comes up, time and time again.
The simple facts are that in a one on one fight in the street or in the bar, a trained boxer will beat an unskilled regular guy who may be much larger than them. There is no way in hell that a guy who fights regularly in something so scientific as boxing is going to be caught off-guard and lose to someone in a straight up fight barring the usage of a weapon or some unforseen circumstance like heart failure. Boxers are dangerous people.
Now if both fighters are skilled, the larger guy will likely win because he’s going to hit a lot harder. If you don’t believe me, watch what happens to Pacman when he fights DLH in Decemeber.
If bother fighters are unskilled, the larger guy is going to have a better chance at winning. Hate to say it, but it’s true. The smaller guy is definitely going to be at a disadvantage.
Now most times this shit doesn’t matter anyway, because no fight that I’ve ever seen has ever been a fair, stand up fight between just two guys- it’s been a sprawling, sloppy brawl between many (mostly drunk) people who may or may not have weapons.
On top of that, I don’t know how all you tough guys have gotten into fights and not broken your hands or your wrists. If you’ve ever broken your hand, let me tell you that it hurts like fuck, and is seriously going to fuck up your plans of ruling the bar.
Once I saw a boxer get in a brawl. He was a skinny black kid with fast hands, and he did some damage… until a friend of mine hit him in the face with a cue ball stuffed in a sock.
My point? There’s too many variables in street violence for you people to argue about it.
On top of that, if bigger guys weren’t more dangerous, there wouldn’t be weight classes every 7 pounds in most fighting leagues, be it boxing, wrestling, or whatever.
So keep yapping… you may as well be arguing over whether you should vote for the Red Sox or the Knicks to man the next space flight. Makes about as much sense.