Strength, Fighting Ability Revealed In Faces

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[quote]John S. wrote:
drewh wrote:
I don’t know about the ninja scenario skill will always beat strength look at royce gracie v the sumo wretler. Kenny Florian in the UFC. Or how bad Tank Abbot sucks even though he benches 600 pounds. Now for the average person in a street fight strength certainly would matter.

For the last time Tank does not bench 600lbs, he doesn’t bench 500lbs hell I doubt he could put up 400lbs. Have you seen this guy bench? the 600lb video is fake, and his little 500lb video he has floating around has him holding the bar and bringining his body up to it with spotters holding it.

People like to use Royce as an example for skill always wins but the thing is Royce won a competition not a fight. I have seen many great fighters(boxers,wrestlers, BJJ, MMA) get there asses handed to them by farm boys. Fighters try to act like they can take a mean punch because they get hit by a bunch of people who only train tech but when that guy comes in and is 50% stronger then them there body won’t know what fucking hit them.

I have never seen someone who benches 200lbs take out someone who benches 300lbs. But then again most of this I can kick anyones ass who is bigger then me is just internet talk.[/quote]

Yea this is true. MMA fighters are trained to fight in a ring or cage with a set of rules. And alot of martial arts are made for competition and show, not for actual fighthing on the street. Ive heard of times when a black belt got mangled by someone who never took a karate class in their life but just could fight. And in most untrained ppl, a guy who benches 300 will almost always have a harder punch than a 200 lb bench guy, or at least the potential for it.

I dnt buy the “im 120 pounds and can beat up two 250 pound guys at the same time because size and strength dont matter” crap. That 120 pound guy would have to be very skilled and know exactly what he doing, cus the truth is most guys that size wouldnt survive that fight.

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[quote]John S. wrote:
drewh wrote:
I don’t know about the ninja scenario skill will always beat strength look at royce gracie v the sumo wretler. Kenny Florian in the UFC. Or how bad Tank Abbot sucks even though he benches 600 pounds. Now for the average person in a street fight strength certainly would matter.

For the last time Tank does not bench 600lbs, he doesn’t bench 500lbs hell I doubt he could put up 400lbs. Have you seen this guy bench? the 600lb video is fake, and his little 500lb video he has floating around has him holding the bar and bringining his body up to it with spotters holding it.

People like to use Royce as an example for skill always wins but the thing is Royce won a competition not a fight. I have seen many great fighters(boxers,wrestlers, BJJ, MMA) get there asses handed to them by farm boys.
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Who?

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Size and strength matter.

In high school my buddies and I used to box alot. One friends in particular was a measely 340 at 6’4. Now, we benched the same. But his sheer size a power (bodyweight he put behind his punches) allowed him to whip my ass pretty good. After I learned that lesson, lighter “quick” type of guys are much less scary. Had I not been used to messing around with that fat italian bastard…I probably would have been fucked up royally.

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But remember, no one is the toughest. No matter how good you can fight, its always someone out there who can whoop your ass.

I know I can fight, but I also know I aint unbeatable and someone out there can give it to me, but I might put up a good fight before I go down. But this goes for anyone, no one on this site is unbeatable I dont care what you think, how many black belts you got, or whatever.

You may say you never lost a fight, but that just means you aint fought the one who got ur ticket. You might never fight him, but he’s out there…

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[quote]clip11 wrote:
But remember, no one is the toughest. …[/quote]

Chuck Norris

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[quote]clip11 wrote:
But remember, no one is the toughest. No matter how good you can fight, its always someone out there who can whoop your ass.

I know I can fight, but I also know I aint unbeatable and someone out there can give it to me, but I might put up a good fight before I go down. But this goes for anyone, no one on this site is unbeatable I dont care what you think, how many black belts you got, or whatever.

You may say you never lost a fight, but that just means you aint fought the one who got ur ticket. You might never fight him, but he’s out there…[/quote]

Most people suck at fighting. I’m not gonna worry myself about who could kick my ass.

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[quote]duffyj2 wrote:

Most people suck at fighting. I’m not gonna worry myself about who could kick my ass.[/quote]

Yup.

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i wonder if their necks were visible too? i mean thats kind of a variable, someone born with facial structure related to T wouldnt nesecarily have the other parts as developed. whereas someone who wasnt exposed to as high t-levels could still develop a large neck which is often corresponded with strength.

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Ok first of all the faster you can punch the greater the impact, so again strength (in weight room terms)does not matter. You really think great strikers worry about bench presses and strength no not at all. And still you people are giving me no examples of these martial artists getting there ass kicked by farmboys. And no shit there are rules now but how about UFC one, Gerard Gordeau Sivate and Thai fighter kicking the Sumos teeth out. In these competitions you could do almost anything. Gerard was 216 pounds the sumo 430 pounds.

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[quote]drewh wrote:
Ok first of all the faster you can punch the greater the impact, so again strength (in weight room terms)does not matter.[/quote]

HA!

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Yes, a really fast punching 120lbs midget will be able to do more damage than the slower punch of George Foreman in his prime.

Sure. You keep telling yourself that. LOL!

I swear shit like this must allow some of you smaller guys to sleep better at night…until you actually have to fight someone who can throw a punch and outweighs you by 100lbs.

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The article was about the perception of strength and fighting ability right?

So why the hub-bub about actual fighting ability?

Any of you ever look at someone and just get that innate sense of “Don’t fuck with that guy” ?

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
The article was about the perception of strength and fighting ability right?

So why the hub-bub about actual fighting ability?

Any of you ever look at someone and just get that innate sense of “Don’t fuck with that guy” ?

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Not here. Unless you specifically know the top three moves in MMA with exceptional form and technique, you don’t know how to handle yourself at all.

Clearly, people simply don’t exist who can fuck you up without any formal training.

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yeah right, i have a scout scanner so i just dont fuck with anyone over 9,000

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Im certainly not saying be scared! But i know some ppl think they cant be beaten at all and think cus they may have a black belt in karate the world suppose to move out their way.

But definitely dnt be scared!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
The article was about the perception of strength and fighting ability right?

So why the hub-bub about actual fighting ability?

Any of you ever look at someone and just get that innate sense of “Don’t fuck with that guy” ?

Not here. Unless you specifically know the top three moves in MMA with exceptional form and technique, you don’t know how to handle yourself at all.

Clearly, people simply don’t exist who can fuck you up without any formal training.[/quote]

Buh-buh-but Professor…surely yoo can’t be serials? I mean, I kno a guy who can beat up maountain lionz and stuff, and he only has A GED soooo…

Ur obviously a idiot.

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[quote]John S. wrote:
drewh wrote:
I don’t know about the ninja scenario skill will always beat strength look at royce gracie v the sumo wretler. Kenny Florian in the UFC. Or how bad Tank Abbot sucks even though he benches 600 pounds. Now for the average person in a street fight strength certainly would matter.

For the last time Tank does not bench 600lbs, he doesn’t bench 500lbs hell I doubt he could put up 400lbs. Have you seen this guy bench? the 600lb video is fake, and his little 500lb video he has floating around has him holding the bar and bringining his body up to it with spotters holding it.

People like to use Royce as an example for skill always wins but the thing is Royce won a competition not a fight. I have seen many great fighters(boxers,wrestlers, BJJ, MMA) get there asses handed to them by farm boys. Fighters try to act like they can take a mean punch because they get hit by a bunch of people who only train tech but when that guy comes in and is 50% stronger then them there body won’t know what fucking hit them.

I have never seen someone who benches 200lbs take out someone who benches 300lbs. But then again most of this I can kick anyones ass who is bigger then me is just internet talk.[/quote]

Ok, so how about this scenario - I’m lighter and shorter than my opponent, but stronger and more trained?

For example, I’m 5’11" and weigh 85kg (190lb) and my opponent is 6’4" and weighs 120kg (264lb), but he’s big and fat.

I can definitely bench, squat and DL more than 120kg, so I can basically push this guy off me if he sits on me; I could pick this guy up if I had a handle on him, even though he’s bigger and heavier than me.

On the other hand, this larger opponent can’t even bench HALF the weight I do, and is untrained at fighting and in the gym.

But the bigger guy doesn’t always win. The only advantage he’d have over me is a longer reach, more height, and body mass. The smaller opponent with more strength, skill and training would win in this scenario.

A big, sloppy guy would lose against a smaller opponent who was stronger, faster and more trained. Size doesn’t always matter.

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It burst into flames! Get out of the way! Get out of the way! Get this, Charlie! Get this, Charlie! It’s fire and it’s crashing! It’s crashing terrible! Oh, my! Get out of the way, please! It’s burning, bursting into flames and is falling on the mooring mast, and all the folks agree that this is terrible. This is the worst of the worst catastrophes in the world! Oh, it’s crashing… oh, four or five hundred feet into the sky, and it’s a terrific crash, ladies and gentlemen. There’s smoke, and there’s flames, now, and the frame is crashing to the ground, not quite to the mooring mast… Oh, the humanity…

I told you… I can’t even talk to people… around there. It’s… I can’t talk, ladies and gentlemen. Honest, it’s just laying there, a mass of smoking wreckage, and everybody can hardly breathe and talk… I-I’m sorry. Honest, I can hardly breathe. I’m going to step inside where I cannot see it. Charlie, that’s terrible. I… Listen folks, I’m going to have to stop for a minute, because I’ve lost my voice… This is the worst thing I’ve ever witnessed…

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Oh my god x come on I guarantee you do not punch harder than floyd mayweather, or anderson silva. These men surely could beat you in a fight. And on punching It’s physics what’s going to cause more damage a bullet or me throwing a baseball at you. Hmmmmmm lets think about that. And thinking Foreman punched slow, your dreaming. Why is it so hard for people to believe that weight lifting strength is not that important. Randy Couture, Wanderlei Silva,Antonio Noguera, Many of these men do not even lift weights yet would demolish a powerlifter or someone much stronger.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
It burst into flames! Get out of the way! Get out of the way! Get this, Charlie! Get this, Charlie! It’s fire and it’s crashing! It’s crashing terrible! Oh, my! Get out of the way, please! It’s burning, bursting into flames and is falling on the mooring mast, and all the folks agree that this is terrible. This is the worst of the worst catastrophes in the world! Oh, it’s crashing… oh, four or five hundred feet into the sky, and it’s a terrific crash, ladies and gentlemen. There’s smoke, and there’s flames, now, and the frame is crashing to the ground, not quite to the mooring mast… Oh, the humanity…

I told you… I can’t even talk to people… around there. It’s… I can’t talk, ladies and gentlemen. Honest, it’s just laying there, a mass of smoking wreckage, and everybody can hardly breathe and talk… I-I’m sorry. Honest, I can hardly breathe. I’m going to step inside where I cannot see it. Charlie, that’s terrible. I… Listen folks, I’m going to have to stop for a minute, because I’ve lost my voice… This is the worst thing I’ve ever witnessed…[/quote]

WTF?

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I can’t help myself so let me put this forward:

I think Steven Segal would kick Chuck Norris’ arse.