[quote]josh86 wrote:
And about the 5’3" at 135 - that actually would look decently built. I have a friend who is 5’4" about 150lbs, lean and he looks fucking jacked.[/quote]
Which was my point.
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
Rough day?[/quote]
no, & you’ve seen me post before, this is the 1st time ive ever gone off like that. He knows his shit because ive read a lot of his posts in the past, but hes condescending & fucking rude to anyone with even a slightly varying view. and yeah i guess ive had a bad day!!! fuck it!
[quote]JASE72 wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Rough day?
no, & you’ve seen me post before, this is the 1st time ive ever gone off like that. He knows his shit because ive read a lot of his posts in the past, but hes condescending & fucking rude to anyone with even a slightly varying view. and yeah i guess ive had a bad day!!! fuck it![/quote]
Just joshin’ ya, bro.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I wrote that he isn’t that small…AS IN, HE IS CARRYING A GOOD DEAL OF MASS FOR HIS HEIGHT, yet you took this as me saying his lift wasn’t impressive? I was letting you know that he is relatively about the size as guys of average height who can get that much if they are genetically gifted.
Why does this shit need to be spelled out to some of you?[/quote]
Actually what you wrote was “That 405 had all of 1 inch to travel” to me that means no big deal he didnt have to move it much!! Do you agree that for a guy that weighs 135, regardless of his muscularity, (which has nothing to do with my point)being able to bench 400+ lbs is pretty impressive? If so, why not just say to “yourself” thats pretty good. Instead of posting something negative for the sake of being negative.
And as for that last little parting shot, you just proved my initial assessment of you. You, of all people, dont have to spell shit out for me, i have a very good understanding of many things in life through experience & education. So please Mr. Professor, understand that you “aint got shit on me!!” I thought i’d put it in terms you could grasp.
[quote]JASE72 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I wrote that he isn’t that small…AS IN, HE IS CARRYING A GOOD DEAL OF MASS FOR HIS HEIGHT, yet you took this as me saying his lift wasn’t impressive? I was letting you know that he is relatively about the size as guys of average height who can get that much if they are genetically gifted.
Why does this shit need to be spelled out to some of you?
Actually what you wrote was “That 405 had all of 1 inch to travel” to me that means no big deal he didnt have to move it much!! Do you agree that for a guy that weighs 135, regardless of his muscularity, (which has nothing to do with my point)being able to bench 400+ lbs is pretty impressive? If so, why not just say to “yourself” thats pretty good. Instead of posting something negative for the sake of being negative.
And as for that last little parting shot, you just proved my initial assessment of you. You, of all people, dont have to spell shit out for me, i have a very good understanding of many things in life through experience & education. So please Mr. Professor, understand that you “aint got shit on me!!” I thought i’d put it in terms you could grasp.
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It is amazing how thin the skin is of people on this forum. I am betting most are also the type who claim politically correct liberals are ruining America even though they can’t stop trying to tell others how to speak or write.
Reading this thread just gave me a stroke.
[quote]miroku333 wrote:
and I love MMA, but outside the octagon gross motor function + strength almost always wins, unless there is a weapon (which is very likely). other factors include not hitting the vinyl coated cage but a brick wall, parked car,or fire hydrant. losing your footing in gravel or stepping off a curb you didn’t know was behind you. and of course the opponents back up guy with the louisville slugger.[/quote]
Oh fuck me is that a post filled with COMMON SENSE???
Get off this site now before the Retard infects you.
I always thought that most fights were determined by who had the most friends with them at the time…
[quote]RebornTN wrote:
I always thought that most fights were determined by who had the most friends with them at the time…[/quote]
Which is why I learned to avoid fights in the first place. I got jumped once in high school, and that was enough for me.
But now, since I have been watching UFC on Spike TV, I have learned a lot about MMA fighting, and I am ready to translate what I have learned from watching fights on TV, to actual ass kickery in real life.
Next guy that looks at me funny is getting a rear naked choke and a ground and pound on his face!
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
miroku333 wrote:
and I love MMA, but outside the octagon gross motor function + strength almost always wins, unless there is a weapon (which is very likely). other factors include not hitting the vinyl coated cage but a brick wall, parked car,or fire hydrant. losing your footing in gravel or stepping off a curb you didn’t know was behind you. and of course the opponents back up guy with the louisville slugger.
Oh fuck me is that a post filled with COMMON SENSE???
Get off this site now before the Retard infects you.[/quote]
The Retard is a virulent and deadly virus that, once introduced, will incapacitate the host for the rest of his life. It is best avoided at all costs.
[quote]RebornTN wrote:
I always thought that most fights were determined by who had the most friends with them at the time…[/quote]
That helps when I am out with the rugby team.
Are people really that sensitive about stuff on the internet? Really? The INTERNET?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
I’d rather be underestimated.
I wouldn’t. In most cases, I wouldn’t have to fight.
The best outcome of a street fight is to avoid it in the first place. One of the basic premises of Martial Arts is the avoidance of conflict, not the daring of it.
I have other ‘attributes’ I could use to avoid conflict. If one will back out of a fight due to his opponent’s size, then other methods of intimidation may prove equally effective. When there’s no chance of avoiding the conflict, the surprise and confusion created by underestimation will ensure it ends quickly and in the underestimated’s favor.
I have no formal MA training myself, but I would bet another one of their basic premises in to never underestimate an opponent, for this very reason.
That said, you’re much larger than me, X. Perhaps I would believe differently if I were bigger.
You sound like someone who grew up rarely actually having to prove that. Your perspective changes when you actually face the possibility of getting hurt on a daily basis growing up. Your first line of defense is to NOT be a target in the first place.
Life isn’t an action movie. I get the feeling that some of you have this running movie in your head where someone tries to attack you and you burst into your Jet Li-Crouching Tiger moves and surprise your attacker.
Trust me, if you are being attacked, chances are a weapon is involved…and you won’t be “surprising” a damn thing…except maybe your underwear.[/quote]
I’ve been in plenty of real situations before, especially when I was younger. I felt no fear during those times. Actually, one time people thought I was crazy because I was laughing while kneeing a guy repeatedly in the kidneys. I found the fight hilarious. Weapons were used sometimes, mainly intact bottles which were usually smashed over someone’s head.
I’d agree with you there though. Whenever a bladed or edged weapon is involved, it usually means business and that’s when it stops getting funny.
The strange thing is, being hit doesn’t hurt when you’re in the heat of battle. I just see a flash when I get punched in the head, and feel an impact and connection, but no pain. Until the aftermath…that’s when the jaw starts aching! lol.
Normal fisticuffs between people aren’t that scary in most cases - it’s only when things turn deadly serious that it can get ugly.
In fights sometime the outcome can be determined by who is the most willing to fight or who has the most heart…a physically weaker guy who isnt afraid to fight may beat a physically stronger guy who is afraid to fight for whatever reason, so the fear causes the stronger guy to freeze up…whereas if the stronger guy was just as aggresive he would prolly win the fight.
I seen this more than once, where the obviously stronger guy loses, but it seemed to me he lost because he wasnt as aggresive as the other guy, not because he just couldnt fight, he didnt want to fight.
In real life, the average person in the street aint a golden gloves boxing champion or a jujitsu black belt, so size and strength does matter to a degree in a fight because the person you are most likely to get in a fight with WILL NOT be a boxing champion or a black belt (it could happen).
When I get into a fight I try to win by any means neccesary. So if I knock you out with a punch to your chin or cracking a chair across your head or even pistol whipping you, when we scraping I got that anything goes mentality. As long as Im the last one standing, it dont matter to me how I did it.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
The strange thing is, being hit doesn’t hurt when you’re in the heat of battle. I just see a flash when I get punched in the head, and feel an impact and connection, but no pain. Until the aftermath…that’s when the jaw starts aching! lol.
Normal fisticuffs between people aren’t that scary in most cases - it’s only when things turn deadly serious that it can get ugly.
It’s not strange dude, it’s… adrenaline.
Natural painkiller and turbobooster, so powerful that people often mistake it for fear within themselves and allow it to ruin their fight before they even throw their first punch.
“There is nothing to fear except fear itself” describes this perfectly, IMO.
BBB[/quote]
True.
I must also point out from experience, being heavily drunk on alcohol might increase your bravado to fight, but it certainly doesn’t help your ability!
Pretty self-evident, but from the way I see drunk people act in clubs or out on the street, they don’t seem to realize it. I got my ass handed to me one time while fighting drunk…
[quote]clip11 wrote:
In real life, the average person in the street aint a golden gloves boxing champion or a jujitsu black belt, so size and strength does matter to a degree in a fight because the person you are most likely to get in a fight with WILL NOT be a boxing champion or a black belt (it could happen).
When I get into a fight I try to win by any means neccesary. So if I knock you out with a punch to your chin or cracking a chair across your head or even pistol whipping you, when we scraping I got that anything goes mentality. As long as Im the last one standing, it dont matter to me how I did it.[/quote]
You’re are going to pull a gun and not the trigger?
It is my understanding, if you pull it; you better be ready to squeeze the trigger.
Otherwise leave, you pistol (whipping device) concealed…
[quote]JGerman wrote:
clip11 wrote:
In real life, the average person in the street aint a golden gloves boxing champion or a jujitsu black belt, so size and strength does matter to a degree in a fight because the person you are most likely to get in a fight with WILL NOT be a boxing champion or a black belt (it could happen).
When I get into a fight I try to win by any means neccesary. So if I knock you out with a punch to your chin or cracking a chair across your head or even pistol whipping you, when we scraping I got that anything goes mentality. As long as Im the last one standing, it dont matter to me how I did it.
You’re are going to pull a gun and not the trigger?
It is my understanding, if you pull it; you better be ready to squeeze the trigger.
Otherwise leave, you pistol (whipping device) concealed…[/quote]
U have a point…
[quote]drewh wrote:
I don’t know about the ninja scenario skill will always beat strength look at royce gracie v the sumo wretler. Kenny Florian in the UFC. Or how bad Tank Abbot sucks even though he benches 600 pounds. Now for the average person in a street fight strength certainly would matter.[/quote]
For the last time Tank does not bench 600lbs, he doesn’t bench 500lbs hell I doubt he could put up 400lbs. Have you seen this guy bench? the 600lb video is fake, and his little 500lb video he has floating around has him holding the bar and bringining his body up to it with spotters holding it.
People like to use Royce as an example for skill always wins but the thing is Royce won a competition not a fight. I have seen many great fighters(boxers,wrestlers, BJJ, MMA) get there asses handed to them by farm boys. Fighters try to act like they can take a mean punch because they get hit by a bunch of people who only train tech but when that guy comes in and is 50% stronger then them there body won’t know what fucking hit them.
I have never seen someone who benches 200lbs take out someone who benches 300lbs. But then again most of this I can kick anyones ass who is bigger then me is just internet talk.