[quote]Makavali wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
…youth sometimes creates passions that have no logic
No way. That can’t be right.
Can it?
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… guys?[/quote]
Yes Mak it’s like I keep telling you, your passion for mastubating 12 times day has no logic.
[quote]Electric_E wrote:
Yes Mak it’s like I keep telling you, your passion for mastubating 12 times day has no logic.[/quote]
That PM was private!
I dunno if I’ll be stating something that’s already been said with this comment, as I’ve only read the first page. Perhaps someone has mentioned this in later comments.
When it comes to stret drugs, I notice there is a kind of a ‘cool’ laissez faire attitude among many in society - ‘i don’t do it myself, but i don’t object to others doing it’.
I aggree that ethically people should be allowed to put what they want in their bodies, but if it’s a controlled substance, well then, tough shit, you’re breaking the law. Nobody wants to say this to their friends.
Once it goes outside the law, the money goes into the hands of organized criminals, who probably are lovely people underneath it all, but they still go around blowing people’s heads off with shotguns. This is common knowledge. Why don’t people connect the dots?
I wonder how quickly those laissez faire attitudes dissappear when people realise their 13 yr old daughter (or son) is taking cock in the ass to feed a crack habit.
EDIT: I see this point has been made. Good.
Amphetamines are methamphetamines are the most catabolic subtances around. The muscle loss they can cause is shocking. I know first hand. Even one night of use is devastating to your muscle mass. Last time I used them, it took almost a month for my physique to recover.
Nevermind the rebound anxiety that makes you want to cry. My new years resolution this year was actually to never do either again (or MDMA, because no matter how “pure” it’s supposed to be, it always ends up mixed).
[quote]Thomas Gabriel wrote:
Amphetamines are methamphetamines are the most catabolic subtances around. The muscle loss they can cause is shocking. I know first hand. Even one night of use is devastating to your muscle mass. Last time I used them, it took almost a month for my physique to recover.
Nevermind the rebound anxiety that makes you want to cry. My new years resolution this year was actually to never do either again (or MDMA, because no matter how “pure” it’s supposed to be, it always ends up mixed).[/quote]
Oh fuck that.
Im all for weed, but speed is bad shit.
And coke isnt that special, I dont know why people like it so much, its not even that fun.
[quote]Joe Joseph wrote:
Ready-2-Learn wrote:
You are an imbecile Roweski with zero reasoning skills.
I decided to post on this thread because i have a personal hatred for criminals i guess you could say.
I have great disdain for anyone who knowingly gives money to the criminal system with no good reason and i make no exceptions.
Do any of you care?
Probably not. Although i’d like to think it made atleast one person.
I guess my uneducated self should stop trying to explain to ‘a bunch of educated adults’ why giving drug dealers money is bad.
I’m not going to try and reason with you anymore Roweski because you are an illogical person. However certain people in this thread should see my point whether or not they’ve become the target of my ‘preaching’.
As so far the only reasons that have been supplied are:
- You can’d do it legally so do it illegally
- There are other people that are bad aswell
I guess i have been completely proved wrong in my opinion.
There are street dealers and there are bulk suppliers and importers/exporters.
It is no more wrong to give money to a street dealer than to anyone, the street dealers are no worse than you or me, they are your everyday “joe” who happen to sell illegal drugs to make their money/way in life. It doesnt make them bad people, some are - but that is people, some are bad - some are not.
As for the top of the food chain, it is regrettable that these people are the ones to finally gain from illegal drug use… as they tend to be involved in people trafficking, gun smuggling, very large scale violence and human right violations, cartels, gangs and many of the “darker” side of human lust and consumerism.
But in order to stop giving these gangsters money isnt about stopping buying drugs - because as long as there has been man, there has been drugs, from opium, mead, mushrooms, cacti, weed etc… It is about legalising these drugs and controlling their manufacture and distribution. Look at the success methadone has had on the heroin addicted population, i should know - i use it daily, i dont drink, smoke or do drugs. Just that. it is legal and prescribed. Where do you stand on that?
By your own admission you dont mind someone using drugs that are legal as they tend to be law abiding citizens, well there is the answer… Legalize it.
Education - as you flirted with, is a very important weapon in the fight against crime.
Maybe it is time you updated you own, eh?
Joe[/quote]
I aggree that recreational drugs should be all legalized. It used to be that way in the early 1900s, far as I know.
I don’t really believe that there is any benefit to using most illegal stuff if you take BBding seriously.
All the uppers will make you loose muscle as you will be too hyper and your appetite will be suppressed - not a good combo.
On top pf that it will ruin your sleep - no need to comment on that.
Some guys take MJ to help increase appetite.
I disagree with that, if you needed that food your body would be asking for it.
And other guys take GHB to sleep as their body is out of wack and they want soothing deep sleep, justifiable when you think that it will turn into water in your body. But is it smart to pretty much take a sleeping substance overdose every day?
GHB is very addictive and habit forming if misused.
OOoohh man this is a threrd for me… let me read from the beginning… 
i see i already have. /input
Just saw this thread, and all I can say to this is that a contest diet is hard enough on ones body, why add to it by using these drugs everyone is discussing. I have dieted and the truth is you can get lean enough without T3 and stimulants. You just have to gut it out.
The drugs been mentioned will kill the partaker. It is just a matter of time - You roll the dice, sooner or later you are gonna get the snake eyes - especially using cocaine and speed.
I will never forget the look of somebody who has overdosed - eyes all blood shot worse then ever and pupils blown. What a tragedy and a waste of life. What a blow to the loved ones left behind as there is nobody left to be mad at.
I can understand T3 usage, but coke and speed is just ridiculous for contest prep.
tO BE FAIR YOU CANT od ON pHET OR COKE UNLESS SHOOTING IT. oR SMOKING CRACK… BUT ESSENTIALLY I AGREE… THOSE DRUGS HAVE NO PLACE IN A bb REGEIME - COMPETITIVE OR NOT imo.
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Brook
You can OD on coke through any method of use. Cocaine induced MI’s are common, and the trouble with cocaine is it is inherently designed for an OD. It is stimulates the pleasure/ reward center of the brain. Studies in rats have shown they will continue to partake dose after dose untill they kill themselves.
As for speed same thing. People die from caffeine overdoses and speed can be just as deadly. Just throw some PVC’s in a row, some R on T’s and bam you can put yourself into V-fib. It is very possible, and unless there is a AED present and people willing and capable of CPR your prognosis is poor.
In my experience 99% of the time when some poor sap Od’s his/ her friends, panic for a while, then call the ambulance (do nothing in the mean time) and take off with all the drugs before or just as the get there.
It leaves the victim a very poor prognosis.
[quote] Brook wrote:
tO BE FAIR YOU CANT od ON pHET OR COKE UNLESS SHOOTING IT. oR SMOKING CRACK… BUT ESSENTIALLY I AGREE… THOSE DRUGS HAVE NO PLACE IN A bb REGEIME - COMPETITIVE OR NOT imo.
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Brook[/quote]
Are you serious B?
Plenty of fucks OD on coke through the nose…fuck, all you gotta do is get an 8ball or two, and be out of shape, over 40, or what have you, and the CNS Fuck me Fest is on, that’s on a good day too!
Cocaine has been OD’d on plenty right up the old schnozzleberry (nose), lol. Sure it might not happen as much as an intravenous gig, but still, let’s be fair now…
The ol ticker can only take so much shit…
A good friend of mine OD’d right in front of me at a party…The old guy was in his 50’s and had been snorting blow for a long time…but this time was the last.
ToneBone
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Brook wrote:
tO BE FAIR YOU CANT od ON pHET OR COKE UNLESS SHOOTING IT. oR SMOKING CRACK… BUT ESSENTIALLY I AGREE… THOSE DRUGS HAVE NO PLACE IN A bb REGEIME - COMPETITIVE OR NOT imo.
(sorry for caps)
Brook
Are you serious B?
Plenty of fucks OD on coke through the nose…fuck, all you gotta do is get an 8ball or two, and be out of shape, over 40, or what have you, and the CNS Fuck me Fest is on, that’s on a good day too!
Cocaine has been OD’d on plenty right up the old schnozzleberry (nose), lol. Sure it might not happen as much as an intravenous gig, but still, let’s be fair now…
The ol ticker can only take so much shit…
A good friend of mine OD’d right in front of me at a party…The old guy was in his 50’s and had been snorting blow for a long time…but this time was the last.
ToneBone
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A really good friend of mine also Od’d.
this was after a couple days of me and him snorting coke and and meth.
he went pale and somethin was wrong as he could not breath.
called the EMTs and they said that if anyones heart could just explode it would be his.
He made it though but it was very close.
but ya to be fair this was after a bender,me and him were up for a week and this was the second day in a row that we were snorting stuff line, after line a few mins apart.
Alcohol and cocaine are bad news. I used in my 20’s and now I am 32 and been going to AA for 2 years. It almost destroyed my life.
I am 2 years clean, and I am living great. The addiction was so strong that it took over everything. It will sneak up and steal your life.
Now I do not associate with anyone that uses, or parties. That is the first part of being sober, is not being around it. It’s alot easier to say no, if it is not in front of your face.
Today, I feel great. New life!!!