[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
i have heard a few times about bodybuilders using cocaine as a stimulant in the gym and i suppose it makes sense but i have never tried it and dont plan too. I also cannot imagine drinking any type of alcohol during precontest, that must feel awful. I dont really have much experience to offer but i do smoke weed pretty much everyday. Usually before i workout and then later on in the night. It helps me focus in the gym as bad as that sounds.
Dont flame me for it, my friends dont understand how it does and neither do i but it is what it is. And as far as weed being bad for u, i dont buy in to that, especially since i use a vaporizer most of the time. anyway hope that helps and gl to your friend. [/quote]
for what it’s worth someone told me Arnold used to drink pre-contest too because it brought out more vascularity. im not sure how true this is but maybe that’s where the OP’s friend got it from.
for what it’s worth someone told me Arnold used to drink pre-contest too because it brought out more vascularity. im not sure how true this is but maybe that’s where the OP’s friend got it from.[/quote]
It is a diuretic and will promote water loss, and therefor vascularity.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Dave1188 wrote:
i have heard a few times about bodybuilders using cocaine as a stimulant in the gym and i suppose it makes sense but i have never tried it and dont plan too. I also cannot imagine drinking any type of alcohol during precontest, that must feel awful. I dont really have much experience to offer but i do smoke weed pretty much everyday. Usually before i workout and then later on in the night. It helps me focus in the gym as bad as that sounds.
Dont flame me for it, my friends dont understand how it does and neither do i but it is what it is. And as far as weed being bad for u, i dont buy in to that, especially since i use a vaporizer most of the time. anyway hope that helps and gl to your friend.
for what it’s worth someone told me Arnold used to drink pre-contest too because it brought out more vascularity. im not sure how true this is but maybe that’s where the OP’s friend got it from.[/quote]
couple shots of jack, I seen him mention it a couple times.
it was his “trick”
[quote]MaddyD wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Dave1188 wrote:
i have heard a few times about bodybuilders using cocaine as a stimulant in the gym and i suppose it makes sense but i have never tried it and dont plan too. I also cannot imagine drinking any type of alcohol during precontest, that must feel awful. I dont really have much experience to offer but i do smoke weed pretty much everyday.
Usually before i workout and then later on in the night. It helps me focus in the gym as bad as that sounds.
Dont flame me for it, my friends dont understand how it does and neither do i but it is what it is. And as far as weed being bad for u, i dont buy in to that, especially since i use a vaporizer most of the time. anyway hope that helps and gl to your friend.
for what it’s worth someone told me Arnold used to drink pre-contest too because it brought out more vascularity. im not sure how true this is but maybe that’s where the OP’s friend got it from.
couple shots of jack, I seen him mention it a couple times.
it was his “trick”
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I did see this in ‘Total Rebuild’, but just thought it was a joke. It seemed like he was making humor of it; I figured he did it to take the edge off when he was on stage.
[quote]patricio2626 wrote:
MaddyD wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Dave1188 wrote:
i have heard a few times about bodybuilders using cocaine as a stimulant in the gym and i suppose it makes sense but i have never tried it and dont plan too. I also cannot imagine drinking any type of alcohol during precontest, that must feel awful. I dont really have much experience to offer but i do smoke weed pretty much everyday.
Usually before i workout and then later on in the night. It helps me focus in the gym as bad as that sounds.
Dont flame me for it, my friends dont understand how it does and neither do i but it is what it is. And as far as weed being bad for u, i dont buy in to that, especially since i use a vaporizer most of the time. anyway hope that helps and gl to your friend.
for what it’s worth someone told me Arnold used to drink pre-contest too because it brought out more vascularity. im not sure how true this is but maybe that’s where the OP’s friend got it from.
couple shots of jack, I seen him mention it a couple times.
it was his “trick”
I did see this in ‘Total Rebuild’, but just thought it was a joke. It seemed like he was making humor of it; I figured he did it to take the edge off when he was on stage.
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Know what I saw it on youtube but I think that was the source of where that vid came from as well.
was making light of the “high tech drinking device on the top of the bottle” and all the aminos and stuff in the jack.
so I thought it was a joke too, but the more I read about bodybuilders using alcohol as a diuretic and such I think it was actualy kind of true
Alcohol is a vasodialator as well as a diuretic. That’s why guys drink vodka the day before and then something that’s a little sweet shortly before going on stage. You get the insulin pump and veins and the alcohol veins. It is an old school trick.
PVCs = premature ventricular contractions bro! basically the 'timing mechanisms go out of wack in the heart and the ventricles contract prior to the atria’s loading them up with blood - This decreases the cardiac output as the ventricles are contracting but non enough blood in them to cause a good pulse so to speak.
You get a few of these pvcs in a row and it can turn into a run of them which can be called ventricular tachicardia - V-tach can have a pulse or not, but it is a shockable rhythm meaning you can defib someone out of it.
V-tach left untreated may convert by itself back to Normal sinus rhythm or what have you, or it could proceed into ventricular fibrilation and if untreated death.
R on T’s - the electronic wave the heart produces is labeled a PQRST complex, each letter refers to a different part of the electronic wave /signal, an electric pulse is being relayed through the heart that orrigionates at the sinus node and as it relays through the heart different parts are contracting and relaxing at different stages in the complex.
Sometimes electrical signals can get crossed up - i.e. in extreme tachicardia when drugs are involed all sorts of shit can happen, PVC’s can begin happening and the Ventricles are contracting and the Atria is beginng to fire for example -
there is lots of different phenomena that can happen anyways but bottom line is if the ventricles are firing by themselves and the a new single begins at the atria it can screw up everything and cause the heart to get confused and go directly into V-fib.
Cardiology is pretty complicated stuff when you get right into it, pretty interesting stuff actually.
Yes, I myself have to be really carefull with the use of stimulants also. I tend to get a lot of arythmias as well when using and training.
Recently I had an episode of Atrial Fibrilation actually - I wasn’t feeling well, vomited and following, my heart was irregular. I went to the hospital, got hooked up to the monitor and was low and behold in A-fib. Not a fun time! Anyways long story short, I converted out of it myself about 2 hours later, and am staying away from stimulents from now on.
The problem with A fib is that with an eratic atria you don’t get full filling of the ventricles - Normally the atrias slightly over fill the ventricles giving them an extra ‘kick’ when ejection occurs, due to the elasticity of the chamber. Without that full filling you don’t get that extra elastic rebound and you lose automatically about 30% of your cardiac output. On top of that you the ventricles don’t fully empty and you get pooling of blood that can form clots that are at risk of traveling up into your head and lodging in your brain causing a stroke. Fun stuff! and that is why everyone with A-fib has to be on anti-coags permenantly.
-basically like taking the’turbo’ out of your engine. A lifestyle changing thing at my age for sure.
[quote]Prisoner wrote:
PVCs = premature ventricular contractions bro! basically the 'timing mechanisms go out of wack in the heart and the ventricles contract prior to the atria’s loading them up with blood - This decreases the cardiac output as the ventricles are contracting but non enough blood in them to cause a good pulse so to speak.
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Yep - fucking up the firing rhythm of your Sinoatrial and Atrioventricular nodes = really bad idea!
Cardiology is fascinating. Systemic and pulmonary circulation was my favorite part of A&P last semester…