Strategies for Lowering High Prolactin

Alright gents,

Wouldn’t mind some input regarding this issue,

My prolactin levels are high due to an an anti-emetic medication (Domperidone) I have to use to manage my severe (non-diabetic) gastroparesis which was likely triggered by an infection I picked up while I was out in Cambodia 2.5 years ago.

Domperidone raises prolcation due to it’s anti-dopaminergic properties with strong antagonism at the D2 and D3 receptors, much in the same way the anti-psychotics drugs do. Fortunately, Domperidone does not cross the blood-brain-barrier so it tends not to induce extrapyramidal symptoms.

I try to use it as a little as possible, normally 3 times a week, when my nausea becomes the most unbearable and my other methods for nausea control aren’t working, regrettably severe nausea is still very frequent.

I use other anti-emetics on a PRN basis too such as Prochlorperazine and Odansetron; these are reasonable to an extent, but the first is annoyingly sedating and has similar anti-dopaminerigc properties, and the latter is expensive; also, both don’t have the pro-kinetic effect on the stomach and small bowel which is what I’m after to reduce my symptoms.

Prolactin after last draw is 346 mu/L (0-330).

Total test levels are currently reasonable at 24.0 nmol/L.

(Note: these are are UK units, I believe the value units are different in the US.)

Haven’t been able to get any E2, FT or LH readings recently so can’t get quite a full picture of my total hormonal profile, regrettably. My GP is normally quite helpful, but like most is about out of her depth here.

I am currently asymptomatic with regards to acute hyperprolactinemia apart from an increase in water retention and generally feeling like sh1t (though being nauseated all the time will do that). However, I want to ensure any further damage isn’t done, or things worsen.

With regards to options, here’s what I’ve researched tentatively,

  1. Vitamin p-5-p. The biologically active form vitamin b-6. Seems to have a reasonable anecdotal reports for directly lowering prolactin at 50-200mg. Major drawback is that P5P seems to have some rather active effects on serotonergic transmission and thus CV affects. I’m also on both low-dose SSRI Citalopram and low-dose Nortryptyline. p5p could theoretically raise blood levels of both meds and have some cardiac effects, so some caution is warranted.

  2. A medium strength aromatase inhibitor such as 6-bromo. My endocrinology knowledge is limited, but wouldn’t blocking estrogen and ergo boositng test, also lower prolactin signalling?. If so, this might well be a better first line option.

  3. Pramipexole. I considered using this some years ago as a primary anti-depressant, but with my nausea so prevalent, I decided against it due to it’s propensity for causing nausea as a side-effect. So that would be potentially pouring petrol onto the fire for me. A low dose might be worth considering though…

  4. Levo-dopa through mucuna pruriens extract. Similar pathway as Prami, though using the dopamine precursor as oppose to agonsing the recpetors directly. I suppose the effects might be variable so is worth considering if one doesn’t work out.

  5. Cabergoline. The heavy artillery. I know this works very well for guys in PCT, but might be overkill in my own context plus has the same risk of further nausea as a side-effect much like the Prami. Would probably be my last-chance saloon option.

My instinct is to go conservatively with the p5p and if I have no problems with that work up to 200mg. If I start getting serotonin syndrome effects, the 6 bromo seems likes the next best option. If that isn’t effective, then the mucuna pruriens or the Pramipexole. Then the Cabergoline.

Any other suggestions for anti-prolatcin meds or other methods for reducing prolactin. In an ideal world I wouldn’t have to use the fucking Domperidone at all, but this is a tricky condition to manage and the med is the best of a bad bunch with regards to pro-kineticism of the stomach.

Thanks for your time.

This is a bigger subject then me…

Alot of guys seem to use caber but it most cases we are talking about a prolactinoma… Or pituitary adenoma…

You seem to know a lot about it already. I think you have your options mapped out quite well and need to decide what’s good for you :slight_smile:

Yeah, I think Caber in my current situation would be like responding to an accidental border incursion with a tactical nuclear strike… for now at least.

I’ve decided to go with the P-5-P and have the the 6-bromo as back-up, or maybe run both.

I’ll report back in 4-6 weeks, along with new labs.

Faustian,

I think your analogy is spot-on. I have a prolactinoma. My prolactin levels were 30 times the high end of the range according to the lab. At .25mg/twice a week, my prolactin levels were half of the low end of the range in a matter of a month. Although the side-effects of cabergoline are minimal compared to those of bromocriptine, they still exist. You are right in putting away your nuclear strike.

Your situation would appear to be extremely complicated and beyond the scope of everyone here, I would say. We are a TRT forum, and although we do have some knowledge on how prolactin levels work, I would say they are more geared to how they affect testosterone levels.

We tend to “hate on” endocrinologists here, but that’s because of their lack of knowledge when it comes to TRT. I think you would benefit greatly from seeing an experienced endocrinologist for your case.

[quote]Kaynon311 wrote:
Faustian,

I think your analogy is spot-on. I have a prolactinoma. My prolactin levels were 30 times the high end of the range according to the lab. At .25mg/twice a week, my prolactin levels were half of the low end of the range in a matter of a month. Although the side-effects of cabergoline are minimal compared to those of bromocriptine, they still exist. You are right in putting away your nuclear strike.

Your situation would appear to be extremely complicated and beyond the scope of everyone here, I would say. We are a TRT forum, and although we do have some knowledge on how prolactin levels work, I would say they are more geared to how they affect testosterone levels.

We tend to “hate on” endocrinologists here, but that’s because of their lack of knowledge when it comes to TRT. I think you would benefit greatly from seeing an experienced endocrinologist for your case.[/quote]

Well said

Vitex, P-5-P, mucuna pruriens are all otc ways of lowering prolactin.