[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
also, I dont wanna recieve a vial with some other fucking drug in it like hand sanitizer or heroine[/quote]
This is pretty much my main reason also. I don’t wan’t to buy anything from a source i don’t fully trust to sell me top notch products, and as of right now i don’t have a source readily available that i trust to only handle top notch product. The last thing i wan’t to do is inject some kind of bacteria ridden filth into me and get infected.
Secondly my goal isn’t to be the biggest guy on stage. I wan’t to emulate a physique like Ulysses Williams Jr. which is as close to aesthetically perfect as i have yet to see. If i can get to that level without crossing the line then great if i can’t then i will take the plunge.
Lastly i do intend on competing in the near future and i wan’t to sort of get my feet wet in natural competitions first, maybe try to win a pro card in one of the natural federations. After all i figure if you couldn’t compete and win against the top tier naturals you probably wouldn’t have any better luck competing against top tier NPC level guys anyway.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Since I blasted that idiot earlier (looking back at his post, he is probably a troll with too much time on his hands because theres really no way anybody is that stupid)[/quote]
He wrote this in the “Vaccines are an attack” thread:
“The human body has the ability to heal almost every problem we throw drugs at given the proper sources of food light air and water.”
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Since I blasted that idiot earlier (looking back at his post, he is probably a troll with too much time on his hands because theres really no way anybody is that stupid)[/quote]
He wrote this in the “Vaccines are an attack” thread:
“The human body has the ability to heal almost every problem we throw drugs at given the proper sources of food light air and water.”
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Interesting to hear everyones perspective on this. The obvious fact is to compete at the top level in this sport is impossible without steroids. So anyone that has no plans never to take them has no desire to compete at that level, or they are very naive.
So my main reason is that I have no desire to compete at that level. I don’t think I can be competitive if I did. I do, however, feel I could be competitive in a natty show one day. So for me there is more incentive to stay natty.
That being said, I’m in the same boat as a few others here.
Legality is a concern for me. I had a drug arrest when I was younger, so the consequences of getting caught absolutely keep steroids out of my hands. A 2nd strike is not something I want, the first was hard enough. (2nd strike would most likely be significant jail time.)
Beyond this, Rockula makes a good point. I would have to be beyond confident in what I was getting. I’d need to know how it was handled/ by who from start to finish. It’s hard to get that with anything illegal. I don’t have the connections to make that happen, and am not interested in making them.
Hope this thread stays on the right path, besides 1 or 2 shitty responses, not bad
[quote]kakno wrote:
I’ve always had it pretty easy in life and have never really had to work hard. The gym is the only place where I’ve ever had to push myself to get anywhere; the only place where I’m self made. [/quote]
Shit, I never realised it till I read this but this is true for me too. It partially explains why I’m so driven to start my own business too…
Steroids are not for me right now - I want to get to the status where many people just can’t possibly believe I’m still natural before I use. I want to get an elite powerlifting total while natural too.
I think when I’m older and my natural T starts to wane then I will likely want to start. Or maybe I’ll want to go for it sooner, who knows.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
…the arm wrestling…[/quote]
Hahahaha. I am sure many here can relate. I have woken up hung over more than a few times wondering “why the hell do my elbows ache so bad?” Then I remeber that I agreed to arm wrestle everyone that challenged me at the bar the night before.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Pretty simply because I don’t feel like I need them.[/quote]
I was going to say the same thing, because for my goals I don’t feel I need them either. But the fact is, if our goal was to compete at the highest level in this sport, we would need them.
Lol at VT dominating Eleven and his absurd comments.
I imagine i will make the jump to supra physiologic levels at some point mainly becaue i like to experiemnt with many things. I already have the worst side affect of steroid use and that just came about because my body hates me lol (ie natural causes). I would really like the increase in recovery as I am a volume nut and like to exercise/ workout more than my body likes to so the increased recovery would be something that I would really enjoy.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Since I blasted that idiot earlier (looking back at his post, he is probably a troll with too much time on his hands because theres really no way anybody is that stupid)[/quote]
He wrote this in the “Vaccines are an attack” thread:
“The human body has the ability to heal almost every problem we throw drugs at given the proper sources of food light air and water.”
[/quote]
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Lol at VT dominating Eleven and his absurd comments.
I imagine i will make the jump to supra physiologic levels at some point mainly becaue i like to experiemnt with many things. I already have the worst side affect of steroid use and that just came about because my body hates me lol (ie natural causes). I would really like the increase in recovery as I am a volume nut and like to exercise/ workout more than my body likes to so the increased recovery would be something that I would really enjoy.
That said legality is a huge obstabcle.[/quote]
The improved recovery aspect is the main thing that makes me want to use. <3 lifting.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Since I blasted that idiot earlier (looking back at his post, he is probably a troll with too much time on his hands because theres really no way anybody is that stupid)[/quote]
He wrote this in the “Vaccines are an attack” thread:
“The human body has the ability to heal almost every problem we throw drugs at given the proper sources of food light air and water.”
[/quote]
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Since I blasted that idiot earlier (looking back at his post, he is probably a troll with too much time on his hands because theres really no way anybody is that stupid)[/quote]
He wrote this in the “Vaccines are an attack” thread:
“The human body has the ability to heal almost every problem we throw drugs at given the proper sources of food light air and water.”
[/quote]
I stand corrected[/quote]
Wrong, you need fire earth air and water.
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Imo, dont see the point unless you want to compete at a high level! Like others have said, you can get a decent physique without them. So unless you want to take it too the next level why bother.
Most young lifters i see dont have the nutritional dedication or experience to see any real gains in the gym and see the gear as an easy option.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Since I blasted that idiot earlier (looking back at his post, he is probably a troll with too much time on his hands because theres really no way anybody is that stupid)[/quote]
He wrote this in the “Vaccines are an attack” thread:
“The human body has the ability to heal almost every problem we throw drugs at given the proper sources of food light air and water.”
[/quote]
I stand corrected[/quote]
Wrong, you need fire earth air and water.
[/quote]
Yes.
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I heard fire will ruin your liver and too much water makes your testicles die? My uncle told me that. He also told me not to tell anyone.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
BTW, if you even remotely want to appear to know something about anabolic androgenic steroids begin with spelling the word steroids correctly. When you fail to do that right at the get-go your long and arduous journey to the land of Truth gets that much more difficult.[/quote]
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Since I blasted that idiot earlier (looking back at his post, he is probably a troll with too much time on his hands because theres really no way anybody is that stupid)[/quote]
He wrote this in the “Vaccines are an attack” thread:
“The human body has the ability to heal almost every problem we throw drugs at given the proper sources of food light air and water.”
[/quote]
I stand corrected[/quote]
Wrong, you need fire earth air and water.
[/quote]
Yes.
[/quote]
I heard fire will ruin your liver and too much water makes your testicles die? My uncle told me that. He also told me not to tell anyone.[/quote]
