I plan on doing my first cycle very soon I am 5 foot 10 I have been training for 6 years I started at 130 pounds and know i am 210 pounds I was wondering if this cycle is too high of a dose considering my weight and the freshness of androgen receptors
weeks 1-12 TestE 500mg, 0.25mg armidex Eod
Pct (test taper)and nova afterwards if needed
[quote]talbotko wrote:
I plan on doing my first cycle very soon I am 5 foot 10 I have been training for 6 years I started at 130 pounds and know i am 210 pounds I was wondering if this cycle is too high of a dose considering my weight and the freshness of androgen receptors
weeks 1-12 TestE 500mg, 0.25mg armidex Eod
Pct (test taper)and nova afterwards if needed[/quote]
Your age would be of significance as well. If you’re in your 20’s (I’m not your father but you may be a little early here) then yeh, start out with like 150 mg E3D rather than jumping straight to 500mg/wk. I made great gains at 200/wk when I was in my 20’s because my baseline test levels were much higher than they are now. If you’re 40 you could go straight to 500/wk without any further risk due to higher dosage probably, IMO.
thanks, I will deacrease it to 300mg split into 150mg twice a week and then when my gains start to die off I may increase it 400mg
Talbot: I don’t know your history but it sounds like you’re anticipating the gains dying off during your cycle; is this based on a history with AAS? If so then you may know at what point to increase your dosage before your gains actually taper off, the cycle will be much more enjoyable if you can maintain the gym-time aggression, ie. knowing your gonna kill it come gym-time rather than mentally taking yourself out of the game. Posts are rarely made about the mental aspect of training but I find it very powerful personally. Regardless, I wanted to mention that when I run a compound at a constant dosage like you are planning, I don’t see a drop off until after my cycle ends and I’m 2 weeks into taper…something to think about.
I dont have any experience with gear yet, but from what I have read and heard, around week 8 your gain increases will level off
Could someone point me where to read the FAQ section that is mentioned in #1 by warhorse. Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
JOE:)
im sorry,but is this PUSHING steriods?
[quote]joshiev wrote:
im sorry,but is this PUSHING steriods?[/quote]
Read the fucking thread title,
This is a thread for people who are going to use steroids, but lack some details wich would alow them to complete a cycle SAFELY
okay knowones pushing steriods around here,and yes i do lack the knolage,can you do steriods safely? with absalutly no side effects in the long run?..i know someone who did a cycle and has troble with his liver. im just saying this site is for bodybuilders,people looking to get fit and so on…but like been healthy? can you still be healthy if u use them…sorry that im a real newbie to steriods and fairly new to to this site,everyone has to start from somewhere though lol
Yes its for all those people, and your obviously not any of them. No theres no way in HELL to do a safe cycle??? duhh all of us that have done cycles all have deca dick, bitch tits, bacne, shrivled up balls and right now im about ready to go hulk on your ass and show you some ROID RAGE. sound appealing? cool go stick yourself with a gram of test and take about 7 a-bombs and create a nice cycle log and let us know how it goes 
thanks! have a great day
[quote]joshiev wrote:
okay knowones pushing steriods around here,and yes i do lack the knolage,can you do steriods safely? with absalutly no side effects in the long run?..i know someone who did a cycle and has troble with his liver. im just saying this site is for bodybuilders,people looking to get fit and so on…but like been healthy? can you still be healthy if u use them…sorry that im a real newbie to steriods and fairly new to to this site,everyone has to start from somewhere though lol[/quote]
AAS (steroids) can be done safley with limited side effects, however if you don’t take all the precations you can roally fuck yourself up (thats why there is this thread).
the person who did a cycle that you know probabley did a hard oral for too long (Anadrol). The reason most orals are so hard is that they are a 17aa steroid, which means it has been altered at the 17th Carbon position, to survive the first pass through your liver, and make it into your blood stream.
alright thanks for the info…i am too young to start and dont know yet if i will start…want to make sure i know all the info before i stuck any needle into my arm…maybe game_over is right…like there is a resion why there illegal over here…thanks for helpin me out a little bit anyway;)
[quote]joshiev wrote:
alright thanks for the info…i am too young to start and dont know yet if i will start…want to make sure i know all the info before i stuck any needle into my arm…maybe game_over is right…like there is a resion why there illegal over here…thanks for helpin me out a little bit anyway;)[/quote]
keep studying, and building your knowledge
Well…I gotta break the “first post” jinx sooner or later and I may as well do it here, right?
I should thank Bushy, Prisoner and all the other knowlegable folks here giving their time. Thanks. I’ve been reading all I can from you.
Now for the newbie questions: ahem, ahem
Is there a general concensus regarding where one’s bodyfat percentage should be before beginning an AAS cycle?
Considering testosterone will reduce bodyfat and also synthesize protein for muscle building…does one tend to lean out a bit, or at least add fat to a lesser degree, while ‘bulking’ (though I dislike the term)?
If one is eating to gain and then begins an AAS cycle, by what sort of percentage should kcals increase?
Basic questions I suppose, but pertinent nonetheless.
Thanks for the time.
Ha! virgin no more!
need stats to further help you… AGE, height, weight, current bf%(guess if you dont know you around in rate my physique and compare) and goals then you should get some responses. In general there isnt a “magic” bf% it just depends on what you going for, if its sissy beach bod then you better start at a fairly low one, if its to add mass and have people call you a freak in the gym 
then you gotta EAT! Plus the more muscle you add the more productive your metabolism will become therefore losing the “smooth” look overtime
[quote]Game_over wrote:
need stats to further help you… AGE, height, weight, current bf%(guess if you dont know you around in rate my physique and compare) and goals then you should get some responses. In general there isnt a “magic” bf% it just depends on what you going for, if its sissy beach bod then you better start at a fairly low one, if its to add mass and have people call you a freak in the gym then you gotta EAT! Plus the more muscle you add the more productive your metabolism will become therefore losing the “smooth” look overtime
[/quote]
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your time.
To answer your questions:
age: 44
height: 6’1"
weight: 245lbs
bf: 15-18% (+/-)?
I’ve been training consistently for 6 years. Prior to that I was a manual laborer and would train now and then when my schedule and endurance would allow.
I ran a cycle of sustanon w/d-bol back in my 20’s with real good results. Haven’t touched the stuff since.
I’m putting together a cycle now:
Test cyp 500 wk/12wks
Dbol 25mg day/5wks
AR’s PCT to follow (nolva/HCG/Exe/VitE)
Thanks again for your time.
[quote]AlterEgo wrote:
Game_over wrote:
need stats to further help you… AGE, height, weight, current bf%(guess if you dont know you around in rate my physique and compare) and goals then you should get some responses. In general there isnt a “magic” bf% it just depends on what you going for, if its sissy beach bod then you better start at a fairly low one, if its to add mass and have people call you a freak in the gym then you gotta EAT! Plus the more muscle you add the more productive your metabolism will become therefore losing the “smooth” look overtime
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your time.
To answer your questions:
age: 44
height: 6’1"
weight: 245lbs
bf: 15-18% (+/-)?
I’ve been training consistently for 6 years. Prior to that I was a manual laborer and would train now and then when my schedule and endurance would allow.
I ran a cycle of sustanon w/d-bol back in my 20’s with real good results. Haven’t touched the stuff since.
I’m putting together a cycle now:
Test cyp 500 wk/12wks
Dbol 25mg day/5wks
AR’s PCT to follow (nolva/HCG/Exe/VitE)
Thanks again for your time.
[/quote]
most people role with 40-50mg of D-bol
and have you considered the test taper
[quote]talbotko wrote:
most people role with 40-50mg of D-bol
and have you considered the test taper[/quote]
Whoa! -Really? 40-50mg, huh?
I’ll have to investigate that further.
I like the test-taper -and you certainly can’t argue with Prisoner’s results…but I think I’ll stick to AR’s PCT protocol this time around.
I’ve been reading AR’s stuff for several years now.
I suppose I’m just more comfortable with what I’m familiar with.
Thanks for the input. I really do appreciate it.
you got it right K.I.S.S always at first or after a 20 year break from the game lol always stick with whats familar and comfortable. i take it that you’ve read around and your gonna shoot E3D … and as far as the d-bol dosage of 25 mgs i think thats actually a good place to be.
talbotko is right in the sense that guys in the game with multiple cycles a year are runnin 40-50mgs but with you being basically new i think your spot on with the dose you should have NO prob seeing gains with that IMHO.
overall i think your a pretty good conidate and you should be set with what youve found only thing i didnt see mention of was your diet. that will be the key to the entire cycle keep that in mind.
[quote]Game_over wrote:
… i take it that you’ve read around and your gonna shoot E3D … and as far as the d-bol dosage of 25 mgs i think thats actually a good place to be.
…i didnt see mention of was your diet. that will be the key to the entire cycle keep that in mind.[/quote]
Thanks for the input!
What’s the general consensus regarding E3D?
I was thinking of a Sunday/Thursday schedule. Would it be more advantageous to simply stick E3D, such as Su-Th-Mon-Fri-Tu etc…?
As for the diet, I’m a ‘Metabolic Typ’er’ -fast oxidizer, so my diet is more ‘Paleo’ with carbs coming from fruits/veggies/selected grains on occasion…somewhere in the neighborhod of 35%protein/45%fat/20%carb.
It takes a little while to ‘ramp up’ kcals…so I’m wondering when I should begin that process -any suggestions?