Steroid Newbie Thread (Help Build It Vets!)

Just logged in and got into the steroid formus. Saw this thread and wanted to share my first steroid experience to those considering an oral only cycle. I used d-bol, for 8 weeks peaked at 35mg. Started at 79kgs and went up to 83kgs.

Did PCT with nolva and WENT DOWN TO 78kgs. Had lost most of strenghth gains and hence been depressed for these last 3 weeks for loosing 6kgs of bodyweight like that. Hadn’t trained at all ang gained some fat. Don’t do oral only, just an advice.

Dianabols are fantastic during a cycle, but gains are quickly lost, i seem to have lost a good deal of muscle,strenghth and obviously some water retention.

Call me an asshole, but that’s what happened to me.

just my 2 cents
Bicep craze

which spot on the body gives the best results for injection …i was told the thigh but not sure were …shoulder was a good one also …could u explain in detail please

Bump.

This is a great thread for a newbie like me! :slight_smile:

I tried the advice at the top of the thread on how to find the answer to stupid newbie questions but I could find the FAQ tab. I don’t want to hijack the thread but I do have questions so if you guys could direct me it would be much appreciated.

I am 37 years old and weight 250 pounds. I have been drug free since I started lifting and competing and now that I am retired from drug free comps I need to address my low test and IGF-1. The doctor prescribed Test-Enanthate @ 500, one shot a week, Deca @ 400, one shot a week, HGH 2iu’s per day and I added anavar 50mgs per day. I also have my PT stuff so I’m set.

The question is If I want to compete in a non-tested powerlifting meet is this the best way to go? I have also experienced sleepiness and an intense full body pump after the HGH shot and a little nausea, is this normal for a first timer? I know you guys are tired of answering these questions so advice on where to find the answer would also be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help.

Peace.

ok you dont like the same old newbie questions about as maybe you can help me with these.my stats are 5ft10in 180lb I bench around 250lb im 39 years old been lifting off and on since highschool.I did winny tabs a couple times with a little extra gains not much mabe 10 pounds.My problem is Icant break 185lbs ill lose almost all fat drink protein shakes 4 times a day eat 3000cals a day workout hard 4 times aweek.I WANT TO GET OVER 200LB what should i take?how safe is it to order from europe i think i found a legit source but i worry about customs what are the percentage of orders that pass vs flaged ect…help an old guy out thanx

First of all, you’re not eating enough. Search for Massive Eating article and also go to Berardi’s calculator on his site. Why risk an international shipment when domestic is available? Get your eating straight first. Then, in a few years try a cycle. It’s not the answer, its only the icing on the cake.

Muahhaahaaaa!!!

[quote]vmask wrote:
ok you dont like the same old newbie questions about as maybe you can help me with these.my stats are 5ft10in 180lb I bench around 250lb im 39 years old been lifting off and on since highschool.I did winny tabs a couple times with a little extra gains not much mabe 10 pounds.My problem is Icant break 185lbs ill lose almost all fat drink protein shakes 4 times a day eat 3000cals a day workout hard 4 times aweek.I WANT TO GET OVER 200LB what should i take?how safe is it to order from europe i think i found a legit source but i worry about customs what are the percentage of orders that pass vs flaged ect…help an old guy out thanx[/quote]

Ahahahaaa!

Sorry.

Y9ou need to eat. Eat + Heavy Weights + Lifting Consistently = 200lbs.

Test will accelerate your progress… Get on HRT, you’re old enough…

hi guys,
Im new here, have been reading articles and forums, keen to learn! Ive scanned through a few pages of this thread, the sterioid forum and some of the article headings, but where are the FAQ articles on here?

thanks!

Alrite guys… I’ve been taking Methyl Masterdrol for 5 days now and I’ve gained 8 pounds already. BUT ive changed my mind because the sides are just too much to deal with right now. headaches, rage, etc. So i want to stop ASAP…But my Nolvadex wont be here for another 7-10 days. Do i stop taking the MM right now?..or take lowest dosage until my nolvadex arrives?

I know i was dumb starting any cycle without having my PCT in hand…but i just now realized that MM is somthing far stronger than i had realized. ANY help would be very well appreciated.Thanks…im 20 yrs old in case youre wondering my age

Question for anyone with the time to take a look… the opinions and comraderie on this site are awesome.

So here is the question:

I’m 35, 230 lbs, 15-18% BF but fit and active.

I havent cranked hard in ages… went really hard in the past for year and peaked at 272 lbs 10% or less BF. Stupid dosages… dont want to repeat.

Since then long periods off… and lots of little little bouts with orals and the odd injectable… no serious game plan.

Now I have decided to start up again with a short cycle and see what comes so I would like some opinions, thoughts, advice… ya pretty open ended question but…

I have planned the following:
1-10th days 200mg test Cyp ED
1-10th days 30mg Dbol ED
1-10th days 1mg Arimidex

11-20th days 100mg Masteron ED
11-20th days 50mg Win tabs ED
*maybe layer in 25mg Proviron here?

21-30th days 100mg Primo Depot
21-30th days 50g Anavar
*layer in HCG, Proviron and Clomid extended out to the45 day mark

Comments thoughts? What did I miss?

Thanks in advance.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Prometheus wrote:
Question for anyone with the time to take a look… the opinions and comraderie on this site are awesome.

So here is the question:

I’m 35, 230 lbs, 15-18% BF but fit and active.

I havent cranked hard in ages… went really hard in the past for year and peaked at 272 lbs 10% or less BF. Stupid dosages… dont want to repeat.

Since then long periods off… and lots of little little bouts with orals and the odd injectable… no serious game plan.

Now I have decided to start up again with a short cycle and see what comes so I would like some opinions, thoughts, advice… ya pretty open ended question but…

I have planned the following:
1-10th days 200mg test Cyp ED
1-10th days 30mg Dbol ED
1-10th days 1mg Arimidex

11-20th days 100mg Masteron ED
11-20th days 50mg Win tabs ED
*maybe layer in 25mg Proviron here?

21-30th days 100mg Primo Depot
21-30th days 50g Anavar
*layer in HCG, Proviron and Clomid extended out to the45 day mark

Comments thoughts? What did I miss?

Thanks in advance.

Um, do you actually mean weeks, not days, as in 1-10weeks. Or am I missing the general idea here? Are you planning to do 10 days strainght with cyp, and then drop it? Unconventional to say the least… bushy.[/quote]

Nope I meant days… I have two of L. Rea’s books and this is a similar layout oto one fo his “cycles”… I thought I would try something short… get in hit hard and taper out with less and less androgenic drugs and layering the recovery ancilliaries… just wanted to hear some thoughts… if you thik his ideas are sh*t or interesting… etc etc… just looking to see if anyone has tried these thigns or is it just in his books???
I dont mind criticism so fire away I can only learn something new which is good.

Thanks

Hmmmm no comments? Could use some thought on L. Rea’s ideas before I get too far into it… might have to rethink…

Alright then…

Let e say it was new to me when I read his two books but the “theory” sounds good…

Have you read his books?

The Cyp of course is going to take time to kick but should be peakin’ in another 7 days… in the mean time the Dbol is making me feel good.

Any body else get that feeling from Dbol? I always have… a real feel good high… not like Anadrol which makes you feel like you have the flu!

Anyways thanks for taking the time dude.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Prometheus wrote:
Alright then…

Let e say it was new to me when I read his two books but the “theory” sounds good…

Have you read his books?

The Cyp of course is going to take time to kick but should be peakin’ in another 7 days… in the mean time the Dbol is making me feel good.

Any body else get that feeling from Dbol? I always have… a real feel good high… not like Anadrol which makes you feel like you have the flu!

Anyways thanks for taking the time dude.

I did read CME a couple of years ago and I liked the general idea, but never go around to applying it as such, although I have done some ‘max anabolic’ phases with test, GH, insulin and IGF1 - and put on 5kg (about 11 lbs) in a week. You could PM wideguy as I believe he’s running an L.Rea style cycle now… Personally, I prefer adrol over dbol as I feel crappy on dbol and strong as fook on adrol. Actually, if I were going to do my version of an l.Rea cycle it would have a test enan backbone, with drol and masteron for the androgen phase with GH, slin and test for the anabolic phase, I suppose…[/quote]

Thanks Bushido I’m gonna PM him and see what he says…