State of Education (at Least in FL)

Well that 78 page monologue is pretty fucking daunting

Yes. When legislation is penned, whether state or federal, it is damn hard to erase and effects anybody and everybody who is subject to that state or nations rule of law.

Thats pretty big.

If a school admin decides it isn’t part of their curriculum, that admin is directly subject to the citizens of that community and can be over ruled, replaced, or otherwise coerced to change that decision.

So one is a rule of law, the other is a decision.

Thats a considerable distinction.

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The John Galt monologue seemed to say the same thing 15 times, 15 slightly different ways.

Me too. I liked Isaac Asimov, Carl Sagan and other sci-fi before I moved into horror and documentary genre.

What I dont get is the push to bend other people to ones will over it when virtually all books ever printed are easily accessible through a national network of public libraries.

I agree schools should have a broad selection of books, but I also believe that they should be at the discretion of the schools administration.

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I thought you meant which party, my bad for misunderstanding your statement

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This is how it was in Florida until the passage of last years bill.

i believe the parents should be made aware of what kind of books are in the library and should be made aware of the curriculum, if they don’t agree with either then they can make a decision of whether to keep the kids in that school, different school or home school

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Thats a bad bill then. Typically I’d consider something like that a poison pill, but maybe not in some states.

I know that at least where I live, the curriculum is available. The content of the library should be too if anybody wants to know, but honestly, I’m not going to sort through that.

We had to make that exact decision during during the lockdowns when we were exposed to the fact that the kids 2nd grade teacher is a stark raving leftist, fully including materials by BLM, stuff about native american genocide- which not only skewed what they were told about it, but also what they should think. And some horrific story about a gorilla which I pulled him from and refused participation in.

We decided to home school the following year, and his teachers this year are absolutely awesome, and the lunatic no longer teaches.

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The problem is that admin has to answer to, or rather bow down to, parents. And believe it or not, many parents are morons and/or ignorant. My father didn’t go past 8th grade, in a foreign country, and he wouldn’t presume to tell educators what to teach.

Imagine being in an inner city district and having parents, the majority of whom are uneducated, unemployed and unemployable, single mothers who are raising the very people who will go on to becoming just like them, if they are girls, or if they are boys, they will end up in prison or dead at a young age, telling a school what should be taught.

A principal resigned in FL because three parents objected to their sixth grade children seeing a picture of the statue of David. Three morons caused a person to lose her job. One parent called the statue pornography. That imbecile should have a say in education?

I would hope this is the very minority of teachers. We should definitely teach the injustices done to the Native Americans but not at the second grade level. Some of that stuff could induce nightmares in adults.

Some of the stuff the Aztecs did would induce nightmares. This shows two problems: a narrative approach to history that sets the story up as good guys vs bad guys. Guess who is always the bad guys. And, telling this story to kids who are too young to understand that life isn’t always black and white.

And this approach to education, and I speak from personal knowledge, is being taught to teachers. Part of CRT is to teach following a narrative approach.

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I completely agree with you that framing at as good v evil is always a losing proposition.

We know enough now that history should be able to be taught impartially. But that’s just not the case.

I did step in to confer at that point to let her know that my wife & son are Cherokee, and that I dont appreciate using words like genocide and mass murder when teaching my 8 year old.

She was just as shocked as you’d expect any white, uptight, college educated leftist to be. Not only that both of us parents were sitting in and paying attention to his schooling, but that it wasnt just a bunch of homogenized white middle/upper middle class 2nd graders.

Honestly, that woman was dumber than a sack of hammers. Even without our input my son quickly concluded that “she’s kind of dumb, and really doesnt know very much.”.

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It’s bad when an 8 year old can see it.

This always amazes me. That these kind of folks are surprised when the groups they feel are the most oppressed don’t react along the “company line”. What do they expect? It’s almost like they don’t see everyone as an individual capable of thought.

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I don’t think I had to read it, but it’s required often enough that I’m sure it’s awful.

Nonsense. They were noble savages living an idyllic life that was ruined by Whitey.

Non-White people. Because White Supremacy is the most pervasive threat to civilization.

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Not for nothing but i suspect their cultural traditions live on amongst the cartels

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Nope. That’s due to Whitey’s corruption of their noble culture and civilization.

I know you’re being sarcastic and I agree with the point you’re making but it might be possible to be a little too dismissive of stuff
there were bars in my state that would hang signs saying “No Indians or dogs allowed” well into the 80s, if not the 90s, and everyone knew those rules were enforced. Sometimes “Whitey” wasn’t super nice.

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Interesting point. I’d never really considered the connection between the groups.