I’m sure by now they do gene therapy on all new recruits or something. You don’t have to have the gene for everything iirc, but you do need it for some things.
[quote]Vegita wrote:
I find it amazing the lack of pre-screening done on things like this. I mean don’t you screen your shows to make sure the people making it didn’t do something really stupid (by mistake) or because they are stupid and you know someone could have caught it before it went to air? [/quote]
My guess has been, as to why this sort of thing in general does not happen, is ego.
Take JK Rowling and the “Goblet of Fire” book for example. (Not sci-fi of course but that doesn’t matter.)
Now, IF her ego permitted her to have other people check her work and make suggestions, to actually work with an editor and so forth, what would have happened very early on?
"JK, all these things with Harry having to complete all these challenges in the contest sounds like it is going to be very good reading, but… let’s summarize here. Voldemort wants to kill Harry. He will enchant an object to be a Portkey, he has one of the Hogswart teachers as his accomplice, and the plan boils down to having Harry touch it, transporting him to where Voldemort will kill him.
"So why does he do it where it takes 700 pages and Harry having to win various challenges he shouldn’t be able to win, his accomplice has to rig all these things, and at the end it’s really not in the accomplice’s control as to whether Harry ever touches the Portkey or not?
"Why doesn’t he just enchant a chair or something, and have his accomplice say ‘Harry my boy, have a seat?’
"Voldemort is too dumb to realize he doesn’t have to make it a 700 page odyssey for Harry to finally get to the Portkey but it can all be done by page 20?
Ya gotta think of some other reason Voldemort needs Harry to win this contest. This just doesn’t work."
Or, even more basic,
“Um, JK, in Prisoner of Azkaban Harry had a map that showed every person that was in Hogwarts, name and location. Especially after there proved to be an infiltrator on the school grounds, how is it that even after that, Dumbledore, the greatest wizard in the world, goes the entire book without knowing that Professor Lupus isn’t Professor Lupus? For that matter, how come Harry never spots it on his map?”
“That map pretty much rules out having more books with imposters.”
But nooooooo! Her ego would not permit having advisers. Or her temper prevented anyone from daring point these things out to her. Don’t know which. These are my explanations anyway.
I think the same thing applies to television series and movies. They are creative geniuses. They don’t need a check from other people before going ahead with filming.
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
I’m sure by now they do gene therapy on all new recruits or something. You don’t have to have the gene for everything iirc, but you do need it for some things. [/quote]
or the ship was sent before the ancients felt the need to require that sort of security to operate their tech.
There’s no holes in Stagrate shows people, don’t look.
Stagrate, awesome whether intentional or not. I remember when they went to Pegasus thinking, “Okay, well what about the ninth chevron?”
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Vegita wrote:
I find it amazing the lack of pre-screening done on things like this. I mean don’t you screen your shows to make sure the people making it didn’t do something really stupid (by mistake) or because they are stupid and you know someone could have caught it before it went to air?
My guess has been, as to why this sort of thing in general does not happen, is ego.
Take JK Rowling and the “Goblet of Fire” book for example. (Not sci-fi of course but that doesn’t matter.)
Now, IF her ego permitted her to have other people check her work and make suggestions, to actually work with an editor and so forth, what would have happened very early on?
"JK, all these things with Harry having to complete all these challenges in the contest sounds like it is going to be very good reading, but… let’s summarize here. Voldemort wants to kill Harry. He will enchant an object to be a Portkey, he has one of the Hogswart teachers as his accomplice, and the plan boils down to having Harry touch it, transporting him to where Voldemort will kill him.
"So why does he do it where it takes 700 pages and Harry having to win various challenges he shouldn’t be able to win, his accomplice has to rig all these things, and at the end it’s really not in the accomplice’s control as to whether Harry ever touches the Portkey or not?
"Why doesn’t he just enchant a chair or something, and have his accomplice say ‘Harry my boy, have a seat?’
"Voldemort is too dumb to realize he doesn’t have to make it a 700 page odyssey for Harry to finally get to the Portkey but it can all be done by page 20?
Ya gotta think of some other reason Voldemort needs Harry to win this contest. This just doesn’t work."
Or, even more basic,
“Um, JK, in Prisoner of Azkaban Harry had a map that showed every person that was in Hogwarts, name and location. Especially after there proved to be an infiltrator on the school grounds, how is it that even after that, Dumbledore, the greatest wizard in the world, goes the entire book without knowing that Professor Lupus isn’t Professor Lupus? For that matter, how come Harry never spots it on his map?”
“That map pretty much rules out having more books with imposters.”
But nooooooo! Her ego would not permit having advisers. Or her temper prevented anyone from daring point these things out to her. Don’t know which. These are my explanations anyway.
I think the same thing applies to television series and movies. They are creative geniuses. They don’t need a check from other people before going ahead with filming.[/quote]
Dont get me started.
If you analyze the rules of Quidditch, they make no sense.
In the end it really comers down to catching the small fast thing, the rest is a complete sideshow.
That is true. It is the stupidest game ever.
There are many other authors that if you read the pages before the book itself, the author thanks a long list of people with their assistance.
You never see this with JK Rowling.
OK, I know, that was getting off topic.
Not really any spoilers I think, but whatever…
Watched SGU ep. 1 and 2 yesterday… I just hope they are going to keep it gritty.
Thing is the pilot of the original had imo quite a different atmosphere compared to most of the actual series…
High hopes for this one though, despite certain… illogical behavior…
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Vegita wrote:
I find it amazing the lack of pre-screening done on things like this. I mean don’t you screen your shows to make sure the people making it didn’t do something really stupid (by mistake) or because they are stupid and you know someone could have caught it before it went to air?
My guess has been, as to why this sort of thing in general does not happen, is ego.
Take JK Rowling and the “Goblet of Fire” book for example. (Not sci-fi of course but that doesn’t matter.)
Now, IF her ego permitted her to have other people check her work and make suggestions, to actually work with an editor and so forth, what would have happened very early on?
"JK, all these things with Harry having to complete all these challenges in the contest sounds like it is going to be very good reading, but… let’s summarize here. Voldemort wants to kill Harry. He will enchant an object to be a Portkey, he has one of the Hogswart teachers as his accomplice, and the plan boils down to having Harry touch it, transporting him to where Voldemort will kill him.
"So why does he do it where it takes 700 pages and Harry having to win various challenges he shouldn’t be able to win, his accomplice has to rig all these things, and at the end it’s really not in the accomplice’s control as to whether Harry ever touches the Portkey or not?
"Why doesn’t he just enchant a chair or something, and have his accomplice say ‘Harry my boy, have a seat?’
"Voldemort is too dumb to realize he doesn’t have to make it a 700 page odyssey for Harry to finally get to the Portkey but it can all be done by page 20?
Ya gotta think of some other reason Voldemort needs Harry to win this contest. This just doesn’t work."
Or, even more basic,
“Um, JK, in Prisoner of Azkaban Harry had a map that showed every person that was in Hogwarts, name and location. Especially after there proved to be an infiltrator on the school grounds, how is it that even after that, Dumbledore, the greatest wizard in the world, goes the entire book without knowing that Professor Lupus isn’t Professor Lupus? For that matter, how come Harry never spots it on his map?”
“That map pretty much rules out having more books with imposters.”
But nooooooo! Her ego would not permit having advisers. Or her temper prevented anyone from daring point these things out to her. Don’t know which. These are my explanations anyway.
I think the same thing applies to television series and movies. They are creative geniuses. They don’t need a check from other people before going ahead with filming.[/quote]
The one plus to the old SG1 is that they made episodes based on this idea by utilizing “worm hold extreme” one of my favorite episodes…
umm… we need a romatic kiss in this scene but we have a crap load of dead aliens… hmmm… welp, if we zap them THREE times with a zat they disapear !!!
or my favorite…
person 1: so, this thing puts me “out of phase” with everything around me, and I can walk through walls ???
person 2: Right !!
Person 1: so why dont I fall through the floor??
Everyone scratches their heads…
So…it’s over. Don’t know about the rest of you but I for one am gutted. Bar a few tweaks, it was by far the most entertaining sci-fi program going at the moment and even the annoying characters had grown on me.
I’ve never really bought in to the Stargate franchise but this had grit and baws and yea, it could be closely compared to BG, but so what - nothing these days is entirely new.
RIP
I was sort of annoyed that it was cancelled - but those montages that were continuosly being done again and again was getting monotonouse + most of the characters were boring and uninteresting.
It lacked direction as well imo, don’t get me wrong I quite enjoyed the first half of the season - the whole aspect of survival was something very different for the franchise. It was the characters and pace that led it down in the end.
I am bummed it was cancelled though - but those montages *shudders
Hahah aye the montages weren’t really neccesary and the final half of this season was taken up too much with the drone scenario, but overall I really enjoyed the characters and pace. I don’t mind a slow pace as long as it’s filled with character building scenes which we did get a few of so it kept me content at least.
I do like how they ended the series/program though. It’s fairly open to a reprisal. Though I ain’t holding my breath. As a former Browncoat - I learned the companies don’t listen to the people.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Cancelled? Say it ain’t so! I love my SGU.
BBB[/quote]
Afraid so. =/
The currently running season is the last, officially.
Stern -
Have you watched much of Atlantis or SG1?
It’s a bummer that LT. James won’t be on TV anymore.
[quote]undecimber wrote:
Stern -
Have you watched much of Atlantis or SG1?
It’s a bummer that LT. James won’t be on TV anymore.
[/quote]
I watched the first, I think, 6 episodes of Atlantis and then realised I couldn’t do it. I think I saw up to the episode where the guy, whatshisface, got attacked by this insect which attached to his neck and the whole episode was about removing it without killing him. It was like a big plastic bug I had when I was a kid lol. Just put me off the rest and I never really invested in SG1 kinda for the same reason - I felt there was a silliness underneath it’s skin which I wasn’t really in to. Obviously they were successful for a reason but I just prefer my fantasy/sci-fi to be dark and brooding or completely devoted to comedy - Firefly, Red Dwarf, etc.
I agree - Atlantis and SG1 were a bit of a hit and miss.
But being 16 at the time - SG1 was pretty cool.
Atlantis took time to get into it, that’s for sure.
Red Dwarf is amazing, so ahead of it’s time and very funny also; I liked when it would suprise you with the odd serious moment, completely messed with my head sometimes.
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Stagrate, awesome whether intentional or not. I remember when they went to Pegasus thinking, “Okay, well what about the ninth chevron?”[/quote]
I like the bit where they are doing a pseudo interview of the various members on the base, and they get to the guy that calls out the chevrons, and he says something about wanting to change it up a bit when he gets to the last cheveon. Great stuff.