Squats Hurt Shoulders, Trap Bar?

[quote]Grumpig Hunt wrote:
OP, I’m a bit confused - how come you can do smith machine squats but can’t do normal squats? Surely the bar placement is pretty much the same?[/quote]

hmm…

increase your trap size or use the pad

also I don’t understand how it hurts your shoulders

it’s resting on your shoulders or something?

upload a video

[quote]Grumpig Hunt wrote:
OP, I’m a bit confused - how come you can do smith machine squats but can’t do normal squats? Surely the bar placement is pretty much the same?[/quote]

Because your arms don’t have to hold any of the weight with the smith machine. You can almost not even put your arms up if you don’t want to.

They are just super sensitive. They are flaring up again right now, and I am going to have to take a couple weeks off. So frustrating. I am going to get an MRI, but I’m sure it will be negative.

[quote]OrangeWolverine wrote:

[quote]Grumpig Hunt wrote:
OP, I’m a bit confused - how come you can do smith machine squats but can’t do normal squats? Surely the bar placement is pretty much the same?[/quote]

Because your arms don’t have to hold any of the weight with the smith machine. You can almost not even put your arms up if you don’t want to.

They are just super sensitive. They are flaring up again right now, and I am going to have to take a couple weeks off. So frustrating. I am going to get an MRI, but I’m sure it will be negative. [/quote]

not sure if this is related to OP…but how is your neck (cervical artrosis)? I never had this problem until 13days ago,always trained my (pretty big) neck but now I have a deep&heavy pain in my left shoulder…

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I’ve had shoulder problems for years and it was getting painful to squat. So about 8 years ago I started using a Top Squat bar. I thought that fixed everything. It did for awhile. I kept using the TS bar. Problems got worse.

Then I fixed it again. I went back to a regular bar. I forced myself to stretch my shoulders by squatting frequently. It can be painful at first but it does help “open me up.” Shoulder pain has been greatly reduced, yes, by squatting and by squatting frequently. I’m convinced now I was getting too tight in my upper traps and lats and consistent squatting, even with light weights, did the trick.[/quote]

I use the top squat too and it works fantastic for me although the really high bar position is a leverage issue at my height of 6’4".

I recently took the DC advice of 50 shoulder dislocates a day and it only took a few weeks to be able to hold the low bar again and I’m slowly starting to work it in.

I strongly suspect the OP has some serious prgraming issues in his overall training and sore shoulders from squatting is just the beginning.

I like these, or if I don’t have somewhere I can tie a band off will do a mixture of shoulder dislocations and band pull aparts with a mini band. It took me a while but those helped my pain tremendously. 30 every morning does the trick for me.

Best advice any one gave me on should mobility work is to make it simple enough to do often. I started off with these extremely complex stretching plans that took me forever and that may be necessary at first but it wasn’t until I started doing something that I could knock out in a short amount of time that I got to where I would do them religiously and that has helped more than anything.

Thanks for all of the responses guys. You have been very helpful.

First, fix your shoulder.

In the meantime squat using wrist raps to hold the bar.