I found the inzer Z squat suit, and champion suits are both cheap, and seemingly have a good record. I’m almost 16, will be lifting at 165 this year and 181 next year I’m 5’ 9". I can squa a raw max of about 225 and want to hit 300 equipped by february
How much could I get out of a suit, and which suit is better fit for my bodytype. What are the pros and cons of each suit. I’ve looked everywhere, but can’t find much information, except that they are a great value.
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
I found the inzer Z squat suit, and champion suits are both cheap, and seemingly have a good record. I’m almost 16, will be lifting at 165 this year and 181 next year I’m 5’ 9". I can squa a raw max of about 225 and want to hit 300 equipped by february
How much could I get out of a suit, and which suit is better fit for my bodytype. What are the pros and cons of each suit. I’ve looked everywhere, but can’t find much information, except that they are a great value.[/quote]
Go to powerliftingwatch and find a group that trains near you. If you can join up with them and they’ll give you the best advice on when you should move into gear. Also you’ll get your lift form checked out. Good luck and big lifts.
I used the champion suit a long time ago and liked it for a very light duty suit. I’ve never had the Z suit. If you need help, call inzer. They will tell you just what you need to buy in terms of sizes. Very good service.
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
How much could I get out of a suit, and which suit is better fit for my bodytype. What are the pros and cons of each suit. I’ve looked everywhere, but can’t find much information, except that they are a great value.[/quote]
How much you get out of the suit will depend on how much time you spend in the suit. The first time you squat in it you may not get much as you are just learning, but work at it and soon you will get a lot of carryover.
As far as the suits you listed, I don’t know, I have never used either. My only suggestion would be to get velcro straps so you can adjust the tightness. You may think you have learned the suit when you have the straps down, but then you put these tight straps up and suddenly it is completely different.
[quote]SprinterOne wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
As far as the suits you listed, I don’t know, I have never used either. My only suggestion would be to get velcro straps so you can adjust the tightness.
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It will depend on what Federation you are lifting in as to if this type of suit would be allowed. Make sure you check before you buy.
Malinda
[quote]SprinterOne wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
How much could I get out of a suit, and which suit is better fit for my bodytype. What are the pros and cons of each suit. I’ve looked everywhere, but can’t find much information, except that they are a great value.
How much you get out of the suit will depend on how much time you spend in the suit. The first time you squat in it you may not get much as you are just learning, but work at it and soon you will get a lot of carryover.
As far as the suits you listed, I don’t know, I have never used either. My only suggestion would be to get velcro straps so you can adjust the tightness. You may think you have learned the suit when you have the straps down, but then you put these tight straps up and suddenly it is completely different.
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The ony suits tha come with velcro are multi ply monsters tho… I don’t think it’d be a great idea for a guy squatting his weight to try and jump into one.
The z is a good beginner suit. It was my first suit years ago. you won’t have to alter your stance or technique much as the suit pretty much does whatever you want it to do. Carryover is minimal. Look for 20 to 30 pounds at first and maybe 50 to 60 after you’ve gotten used to it and learn how to bounce in it. the suit will stretch out pretty quick so go by the sizing chart on the website and then round down.
The z suit has a tighter cut at the legs. I have big legs at 5’7’, 220lbs and they would cut into them. Very uncomfortable. The champion suit was a good fit for me. Both are good starter suits for beginners. These suits are acceptable in all federations to my knowledge.
Squat suits are a double edge sword. You need to use it to get used to them. They give you a good blast out of the hole, with the straps up they tend to lean you forward. Not good. Something you’ll have to get used to. The suit will mess with your form.
Training with a suit all the time will make you a better squatter in the suit but it will make you weaker. The support makes you tight so you don’t recruit as much muscle as you would lifting without one.
I squatted in the sixes and used the suit in training for about a year straight once. One day I trained without the suit and had trouble dunkin 225 for reps. I don’t train with the suit anymore and squat 405 for sets of 10.
Get used to the suit with straps up but don’t use throughout your whole squat routine.
Honestly, if you are squatting 225, you could get to a 300 lb squat with 6 months of hard training and no suit.
A Champion or Zsuit is a great starter suit.
I would recommend that you focus on good technique of the next few months. Good setup. Chest up. Stay tight. Sit back. Push your knees out. Etc. These same principles apply whther you are squatting raw or suited. Practice them on every set- from warm ups to top weight. Put on your suit a few times and get accustomed to carrying good form over to your suited squat.
I maintain that the combo of a tight Z suit and tight knee wraps is good for 100 lbs.
As an added benefit, a Z or a champion can be a decent deadlift suit- both for sumo and conventional.
[quote]Pinto wrote:
I maintain that the combo of a tight Z suit and tight knee wraps is good for 100 lbs.
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Jesus. I’m seriously short changing myself because I don’t think I even get that out of my brand new centy nxg super+ and THP wraps.
I’m using some inzer power pants and metal wraps and my best squat with that set up so far is 475, although I think I was good for 485. My best raw squat on the conservative side is 385, although I most likely can grind out 405; I’ve never maxed raw. Thats about 80 lbs or so for a carry over. If the straps help, your probably could get 100 lbs if you’re wrapping your knees we…
Maximus50 is right,
Unless you’re doing very heavy sets, don’t use the suit. It does make you weaker. Just think of the suit as something only used for max effort.
Good luck.
[quote]Pinto wrote:
A Champion or Zsuit is a great starter suit.
I would recommend that you focus on good technique of the next few months. Good setup. Chest up. Stay tight. Sit back. Push your knees out. Etc. These same principles apply whther you are squatting raw or suited. Practice them on every set- from warm ups to top weight. Put on your suit a few times and get accustomed to carrying good form over to your suited squat.
I maintain that the combo of a tight Z suit and tight knee wraps is good for 100 lbs.
As an added benefit, a Z or a champion can be a decent deadlift suit- both for sumo and conventional.[/quote]
Well stated.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
The ony suits tha come with velcro are multi ply monsters tho… I don’t think it’d be a great idea for a guy squatting his weight to try and jump into one.
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I would think, but I don’t know for sure, that if you requested it they could do it with velcro straps. I had velcro put on my single ply Inzer Fusion deadlift suit, so I am sure they could do it for a squat suit as well. Of course, I know not all federations allow velcro straps so that is something he would have to look into. I just don’t know of a lot of suits that will be easy to hit depth in with straps up and 225 on your back.
[quote]SprinterOne wrote:
Hanley wrote:
The ony suits tha come with velcro are multi ply monsters tho… I don’t think it’d be a great idea for a guy squatting his weight to try and jump into one.
I would think, but I don’t know for sure, that if you requested it they could do it with velcro straps. I had velcro put on my single ply Inzer Fusion deadlift suit, so I am sure they could do it for a squat suit as well. Of course, I know not all federations allow velcro straps so that is something he would have to look into. I just don’t know of a lot of suits that will be easy to hit depth in with straps up and 225 on your back.[/quote]
Squatting 300, I doubt he would be able to get to depth at all unless it was just a really loose suit. I had a buddy of mine who got a suit last year and tried to squat in it with his max at the time (around 450) and he couldnt get it but halfway to parallel.
OP, why 300 equipped? Dont you think you need a better base of strength before you start using equipment? If you are squatting 225, you dont need a suit, you need to squat more. Hard, intelligent training and a good pair of knee wraps would get you a 300 squat faster than you would believe.
[quote]Synthetickiller wrote:
I’m using some inzer power pants and metal wraps and my best squat with that set up so far is 475, although I think I was good for 485. My best raw squat on the conservative side is 385, although I most likely can grind out 405; I’ve never maxed raw. Thats about 80 lbs or so for a carry over. If the straps help, your probably could get 100 lbs if you’re wrapping your knees we…
Maximus50 is right,
Unless you’re doing very heavy sets, don’t use the suit. It does make you weaker. Just think of the suit as something only used for max effort.
Good luck.[/quote]
Wow, power pants and metal wraps and your getting 100lbs???
I think you have a better raw squat than 385. IMO, those inzer power pants do nada. I have played with my metal wraps a little bit, and I doubt that I get 40lbs out of them.
To the OP:
I think both the z-suit and champion suit are dumb. I would go with a quality single ply suit so you can learn in it and actually get something in return. Of course, you probably don’t need a suit yet with what your squatting.
Like most things in life, you get what you pay for. Check ebay, I got a metal deadlifter, ace suit and ace briefs for just under 400 bucks, would have cost me close to 700 if I bought from elitefts. Took me a while to find them though.
Monopoly
[quote]Synthetickiller wrote:
Maximus50 is right,
Unless you’re doing very heavy sets, don’t use the suit. It does make you weaker. Just think of the suit as something only used for max effort.
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I would disagree with saying the gear will make you weaker.
My first equipped squat was 275. At the time my raw was 245. Now my best equipped gym squat is 635 and I have repped over 405 raw.
The only thing that will make you weaker is bad training.
Why would you use a squat suit now? I do 415 and still think Its to early for a squat suit. Build up your raw strength first then use a suit.
[quote]John S. wrote:
Why would you use a squat suit now? I do 415 and still think Its to early for a squat suit. Build up your raw strength first then use a suit.[/quote]
I think the main reason to use is that it’s a tool FOR getting stronger. It’s a way to get used to heavier weights. And lastly, if you have been lifting for any decent amount of time, it’s fun!
That said, I don’t think at a 225 squat it’s time.
Monopoly
[quote]Monopoly19 wrote:
John S. wrote:
Why would you use a squat suit now? I do 415 and still think Its to early for a squat suit. Build up your raw strength first then use a suit.
I think the main reason to use is that it’s a tool FOR getting stronger. It’s a way to get used to heavier weights. And lastly, if you have been lifting for any decent amount of time, it’s fun!
That said, I don’t think at a 225 squat it’s time.
Monopoly
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Here’s the deal: My plifting coach, advised us if we could, go buy a suit. My parents needed a christmas idea. I’m lifting in competition, where other people will be using suits/shirts. Honestly, this suit just needs to last a year or two, once I can afford a nice suit (job,ect) I will buy one. Honestly I don’t need one, I know that. But that wasn’t the question. I have either available to me. They wll help, which should I get? I’m leaning towards the Champion suit I think.