I enjoyed the last SRC thread (it’ll be a classic)
I just started going to a new gym. It’s a nice gym, has everything I need, is closer to my place and have only seen it crowded once. There’s this trainer there, he’s a pretty big dude, who seems to only train people on SRC.
When I first started going there I never saw him training anyone, just kind of hanging out (apparently he didn’t have any clients during my sessions). Then, on the first Saturday I went there, I saw him train two different sets of clients all on the art of squat rack curls. What a fucking tool. I’ve never seen him train anyone on anything aside from fucking arms.
And all his clients look like washed up frat boys who were mediocre football players at a division 4 junior college.
[quote]RMorrison wrote:
Ok, at my gym, there is only one straight bar that is not on a bench, in a power rack, or squat rack. If that bar is taken, one needs to do straight bar curls, and and one of the above racks are open, why should it be frowned upon to curl at said station?
I have never understood this “OMG, dood is curling in teh squat rack” mania. Granted, if you have a choice between using a bar which is not dedicated to a compound lift station, then that would be preferable, but, why should the straight bar curl be given less priority in general? It is a good bicep exercise (one of the best IMO).[/quote]
IMO it comes down to the equipment you’re using. You can straight-bar curl anywhere you have space. The difference is that in the squat rack or power cage, you’re taking up a piece of equipment that has certain features, like safety pins, which make them the only place to do more dangerous lifts. Now, if you’re curling some ungodly amount of weight, and the safety pins might come into play or you can’t safely clean the weight up, go ahead. If you’re legitimately curling like 150+ lbs, full ROM, go ahead and I don’t think anyone would be mad.
People get mad at people who bring in 70#, throw their whole body into it, do half reps, and take up the squat rack or power rack, which is the only place they can squat/dead for the most part. You can straight-bar curl at a bench press station even. When you’re preventing someone else from doing their next exercise, its generally a little annoying. If that thing preventing you is someone doing something they could do ANYWHERE with 5ft of room, it’s a lot more annoying.
[quote]force of one wrote:
Squat rack SHRUGS have become a regular plague in my gym now. I see it about twice a week.
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considering the amount of weight that can be shrugged, I don’t see a problem with this. It’s much easier to lift what you can curl off the ground that it is to lift what you can shrug off the ground.
[quote]jtg987 wrote:
SergeantQ wrote:
I can see people doing haney shrugs on Smith Machine, but all I’ve seen Haney do, via pictures, is him doing them free weight style.
yeah - believe both are acceptable but since I have some junk in the trunk I need to use a smith machine(I also beleive in the superhero workout posted here they mention them being done in a squat rack).
there are worse things that can be done in a smith machine than shrugs
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I agree with you 1000%. Makes it hard if you have a butt. I have that same problem so I just don’t do them.
[quote]jtg987 wrote:
SergeantQ wrote:
I can see people doing haney shrugs on Smith Machine, but all I’ve seen Haney do, via pictures, is him doing them free weight style.
yeah - believe both are acceptable but since I have some junk in the trunk I need to use a smith machine(I also beleive in the superhero workout posted here they mention them being done in a squat rack).
there are worse things that can be done in a smith machine than shrugs
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I agree with you 1000%. Makes it hard if you have a butt. I have that same problem so I just don’t do them.
[quote]schultzie wrote:
people will do every exercise under the sun for traps except deadlifts and rack pulls[/quote]
Deadlifts are bad for your back/neck/knees/ankles/penis/tibialis anterior. And they’re fucking hard work. What do you expect people to break a swaet in the gym these day? Besides the beasts that do 20 sets of curls and 15 sets of shouler presses in my gym don’t need to train their legs/back/entire fucking body 'cos everyones afraid of them anyways…
Whats a rack pull? You probably mean rack curl…
That’s for your gunz man, chicks dig you more if you can curl more than them as well…
[quote]schultzie wrote:
people will do every exercise under the sun for traps except deadlifts and rack pulls[/quote]
Deadlifts are bad for your back/neck/knees/ankles/penis/tibialis anterior. And they’re fucking hard work. What do you expect people to break a swaet in the gym these day? Besides the beasts that do 20 sets of curls and 15 sets of shouler presses in my gym don’t need to train their legs/back/entire fucking body 'cos everyones afraid of them anyways…
Whats a rack pull? You probably mean rack curl…
That’s for your gunz man, chicks dig you more if you can curl more than them as well…
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
force of one wrote:
Squat rack SHRUGS have become a regular plague in my gym now. .
What’s wrong with shrugging in the squat rack? Especially for people who can’t deadlift due to back issues.
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As the many forums and articles posts have stated, when a person says they have back issues and that is why I am unable to squat or deadlift what they are really saying is that I am lazy and i don’t want to put forth the effort to squat or deadlift.
However, if there is truly a back issue and the Dr. said that you MUST NOT do any exercises that involve the lower back until you are completely healed, then I understand and by all means shrug in the squat rack.
It’s a case by case issue but how many people do you think will actually tell the truth and say I am lazy and just don’t want 400 pounds on my back because it hurts my traps and there is not punk pad at my gym? Food for thought!
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
force of one wrote:
Squat rack SHRUGS have become a regular plague in my gym now. .
What’s wrong with shrugging in the squat rack? Especially for people who can’t deadlift due to back issues.
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There’s nothing wrong with doing anything in the squat rack/power rack as long as there’s no one who needs it to squat.
That’s the main beef with src. People walk into the gym fired up for legs (squats) and need the SR to perform them but then there are some used tampons taking up the only viable station to do heavy squats using it for mediocre curls using poor form and technique. It’s frustrating especially since there are ample alternative stations for curls. Hell you could even curl off the ground. Same with shrugs. There are plenty of other places to do shrugs other than the squat rack/power rack.
So, let me reiterate: Primarily the squat rack is built for Squats. However, if there is no one looking to utilize the squat rack for it’s intended use then it is free range for whatever your little ingenious mind can conjure up.
I’ve always done curls in my power rack in my home gym. But this thread and it precursor have made me feel so foolish, I now curl from the floor outside of the rack.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’ve always done curls in my power rack in my home gym. But this thread and it precursor have made me feel so foolish, I now curl from the floor outside of the rack.
Thanks guys.
lol[/quote]
I’m not laughing … I find nothing funny about curling in ANY power rack no matter how exclusive said power rack might be. Did you ever think about the power racks feelings ID? Seriously, NOT COOL.
[quote]Nards wrote:
Remu_87 wrote:
A collection of deadlift videos for those who haven’t seen it - YouTube
What happened to the guy at about 2:15? Did he go into some sort on nueromuscular shock?
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I’m guessing high blood presure… I sometimes get it when I’m military pressing… See that’s scary! (I don’t pass out, but I get tunnellike vission and start hearing little bells ring, and loss of balance as well of course.)
[quote]SergeantQ wrote:
sam_sneed wrote:
force of one wrote:
Squat rack SHRUGS have become a regular plague in my gym now. .
What’s wrong with shrugging in the squat rack? Especially for people who can’t deadlift due to back issues.
As the many forums and articles posts have stated, when a person says they have back issues and that is why I am unable to squat or deadlift what they are really saying is that I am lazy and i don’t want to put forth the effort to squat or deadlift.
However, if there is truly a back issue and the Dr. said that you MUST NOT do any exercises that involve the lower back until you are completely healed, then I understand and by all means shrug in the squat rack.
It’s a case by case issue but how many people do you think will actually tell the truth and say I am lazy and just don’t want 400 pounds on my back because it hurts my traps and there is not punk pad at my gym? Food for thought![/quote]
So just because someone doesn’t want to deadlift they’re lazy.? I’ve got a herniated disc and a bulging disc in my lower vertebrae. I’d have to be an idiot to try and deadlift the weight that I shrug. I’ve aggravated it deadlifting alot less. But let’s I had a 100% healthy back and chose not to deadlift anyway. This for some reason would make me a lazy person? Does this logic apply to other exercises or just the exalted deadlift?
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
SergeantQ wrote:
sam_sneed wrote:
force of one wrote:
Squat rack SHRUGS have become a regular plague in my gym now. .
What’s wrong with shrugging in the squat rack? Especially for people who can’t deadlift due to back issues.
As the many forums and articles posts have stated, when a person says they have back issues and that is why I am unable to squat or deadlift what they are really saying is that I am lazy and i don’t want to put forth the effort to squat or deadlift.
However, if there is truly a back issue and the Dr. said that you MUST NOT do any exercises that involve the lower back until you are completely healed, then I understand and by all means shrug in the squat rack.
It’s a case by case issue but how many people do you think will actually tell the truth and say I am lazy and just don’t want 400 pounds on my back because it hurts my traps and there is not punk pad at my gym? Food for thought!
So just because someone doesn’t want to deadlift they’re lazy.? I’ve got a herniated disc and a bulging disc in my lower vertebrae. I’d have to be an idiot to try and deadlift the weight that I shrug. I’ve aggravated it deadlifting alot less. But let’s I had a 100% healthy back and chose not to deadlift anyway. This for some reason would make me a lazy person? Does this logic apply to other exercises or just the exalted deadlift?[/quote]
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
SergeantQ wrote:
sam_sneed wrote:
force of one wrote:
Squat rack SHRUGS have become a regular plague in my gym now. .
What’s wrong with shrugging in the squat rack? Especially for people who can’t deadlift due to back issues.
As the many forums and articles posts have stated, when a person says they have back issues and that is why I am unable to squat or deadlift what they are really saying is that I am lazy and i don’t want to put forth the effort to squat or deadlift.
However, if there is truly a back issue and the Dr. said that you MUST NOT do any exercises that involve the lower back until you are completely healed, then I understand and by all means shrug in the squat rack.
It’s a case by case issue but how many people do you think will actually tell the truth and say I am lazy and just don’t want 400 pounds on my back because it hurts my traps and there is not punk pad at my gym? Food for thought!
So just because someone doesn’t want to deadlift they’re lazy.? I’ve got a herniated disc and a bulging disc in my lower vertebrae. I’d have to be an idiot to try and deadlift the weight that I shrug. I’ve aggravated it deadlifting alot less. But let’s I had a 100% healthy back and chose not to deadlift anyway. This for some reason would make me a lazy person? Does this logic apply to other exercises or just the exalted deadlift?[/quote]
It’s all on the person. If the person knows deep down inside that they don’t want to DL because they are lazy, then so be it. It doesn’t matter to me. Be true to yourself. If you have a condition, then don’t DL or Squat. There are ways to work around injuries. For example, you could do zercher (not sure of spelling) lifts or hack squats. The point is that there is always a way to work around injuries just need to be creative.
[quote]polo77j wrote:
sam_sneed wrote:
SergeantQ wrote:
sam_sneed wrote:
force of one wrote:
Squat rack SHRUGS have become a regular plague in my gym now. .
What’s wrong with shrugging in the squat rack? Especially for people who can’t deadlift due to back issues.
As the many forums and articles posts have stated, when a person says they have back issues and that is why I am unable to squat or deadlift what they are really saying is that I am lazy and i don’t want to put forth the effort to squat or deadlift.
However, if there is truly a back issue and the Dr. said that you MUST NOT do any exercises that involve the lower back until you are completely healed, then I understand and by all means shrug in the squat rack.
It’s a case by case issue but how many people do you think will actually tell the truth and say I am lazy and just don’t want 400 pounds on my back because it hurts my traps and there is not punk pad at my gym? Food for thought!
So just because someone doesn’t want to deadlift they’re lazy.? I’ve got a herniated disc and a bulging disc in my lower vertebrae. I’d have to be an idiot to try and deadlift the weight that I shrug. I’ve aggravated it deadlifting alot less. But let’s I had a 100% healthy back and chose not to deadlift anyway. This for some reason would make me a lazy person? Does this logic apply to other exercises or just the exalted deadlift?
Saw something fucked up a week ago:
-Guy sitting on a bench with straps.
-A 50lb Dumbell in one hand, elbow against his leg.
-His friend kneeling on floor helping him curl the dumbell.
I said “This is too much” and looked away to keep from laughing out loud.
