[quote]Hanley wrote:
Kerley wrote:
Invictica wrote:
JPeggEFS wrote:
I did it for a long time. Guys at the gym who are still using conjugate periodization do it as well. I know theyre doing it at Lexen and Westside as well.
jason
Whoa, Jason Pegg is posting on T-Nation! SICK! You’re a beast dude (no suck up)
is there anyone else that posts here that squats 1000?
Wendler
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Mike Miller posted here a few times back around the time of the NERB under “mule” I beleive.
[quote]hvywrest wrote:
What are thoughts of performing squats and deadlift in the same workout (max effort day and speed workout)[/quote]
Louie Simmons espouses them IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH WORK CAPACITY.
Do you?
Oh man some of you guys are unreal.
I laugh when I read some guy who squats 275 and deads 315 talk about how “wiped out” he is from both on the same day. Does the name Andy Bolton ring a bell? He does both on the same day. Last time I checked his squat and dead were pretty good. Sam Byrd has trained both in the same workout as his staple forever. I find it laughable that some guys talk about it’s “too hard” or “I couldn’t do that” when you aren’t lifting shit. No offense.
I hit my best squat, 585 x 3 raw, and best dead (a crappy 605) while doing both together and gained a shit ton of mass when I was doing it. That’s all natty too. In fact my best gains have ALWAYS come when I did them both together, then I would wonder later why I changed it. I’m actually starting back on it next week and hope I have learned my lesson from deviating from it.
One thing, it actually allows the lower back more recovery time. Squatting on monday hard then deadlifting hard on say thursday or friday always seemed like “too much” to me. I never felt like my low back was fresh on deadlift day, then squat day would roll around again and it would still feel fatigued. When I put them both together it stayed fresh and each time that workout rolled around my low back felt stronger and more stable than before. IMO the best way to situate it is to squat and dead in one workout, then squat only the next one. Repeat the sequence. And who cares what Louie Simmons says? Go into the gym and get it done. Quit asking for permission to do this shit and just bang it out.
if youre training for speed work and using sub-maximal weight it is feasible.
i train in a way so that every time i lift my goal is to add more weights or more reps. there is no way i could do that if i trained both on the same day, it would be an exercise in frustration more than anything else.
just do it and post …korte worked for me
[quote]Guardian58 wrote:
Oh man some of you guys are unreal.
I laugh when I read some guy who squats 275 and deads 315 talk about how “wiped out” he is from both on the same day. Does the name Andy Bolton ring a bell? He does both on the same day. Last time I checked his squat and dead were pretty good. Sam Byrd has trained both in the same workout as his staple forever. I find it laughable that some guys talk about it’s “too hard” or “I couldn’t do that” when you aren’t lifting shit. No offense.
I hit my best squat, 585 x 3 raw, and best dead (a crappy 605) while doing both together and gained a shit ton of mass when I was doing it. That’s all natty too. In fact my best gains have ALWAYS come when I did them both together, then I would wonder later why I changed it. I’m actually starting back on it next week and hope I have learned my lesson from deviating from it.
One thing, it actually allows the lower back more recovery time. Squatting on monday hard then deadlifting hard on say thursday or friday always seemed like “too much” to me. I never felt like my low back was fresh on deadlift day, then squat day would roll around again and it would still feel fatigued. When I put them both together it stayed fresh and each time that workout rolled around my low back felt stronger and more stable than before. IMO the best way to situate it is to squat and dead in one workout, then squat only the next one. Repeat the sequence. And who cares what Louie Simmons says? Go into the gym and get it done. Quit asking for permission to do this shit and just bang it out.[/quote]
the great thing about your comment is that you based it from your experience.
the great thing about your comment is that you based it from your experience.[/quote]
And how experienced are you? Can you even deadlift 2x bw? Shut the fuck up.
[quote]BIGBOSSTRON wrote:
the great thing about your comment is that you based it from your experience.
And how experienced are you? Can you even deadlift 2x bw? Shut the fuck up.[/quote]
As a matter of fact, yes.
And you are one of the rare people in this world who doesn’t seem to appreciate compliments…
If my compliment was offensive, please forgive me.