[quote]J.W. wrote:
huey.ot wrote:
I cannot see, however, someone’s lats becoming sore after a bench workout. To me, that says weak and poorly conditioned lats, no matter how you perform your bench pressing.
OK, I guess a 200 lb guy who does pronated pull-ups with a 45 lb plate hanging has weak lats.
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Guys, sometimes when u bench press u involve ur lats a little more than others. It basically comes down to what FORM u have during the press.
Say, when I do regular DLs, I do it with my butt as hight as I can get it, so my Lower Back takes the hit. BUT as my Lower Back gets tired, and I continue to DL I change MY FORM. I start by lowering the butt a bit when I reach to pick up the weight, then I start to straiten my legs to bring the weight up while keeping my butt back.
Finally, when my torso is parallel to the ground, I Snap! my hips and torso up. THIS uses my hamstrings a lot more, its basically a Romanian DL. So the next day, both my Lower Back and Hamstrings are sore.
The reason why I say deteriorate is not because the form has necessarily suffered, but it is much much easier to get the weight up 1 joint at a time. So for the people that are rising and straightening their back and legs at the same time are doing a harder lift.
[quote]J.W. wrote:
huey.ot wrote:
I cannot see, however, someone’s lats becoming sore after a bench workout. To me, that says weak and poorly conditioned lats, no matter how you perform your bench pressing.
OK, I guess a 200 lb guy who does pronated pull-ups with a 45 lb plate hanging has weak lats.
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I’m not going to change my opinion on this. I’d like to see how this guy performs his chins, by the way. Sore lats from benching, to me, says weak lats.
[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
The reason why I say deteriorate is not because the form has necessarily suffered, but it is much much easier to get the weight up 1 joint at a time. So for the people that are rising and straightening their back and legs at the same time are doing a harder lift.[/quote]
But it’s dumb to perform the deadlift that way. It makes no sense to me to intentionally make an exercise more difficult.
You can say that about stupid alteration to an exercise that makes an exercise more difficult. When benching, grab the bar extra extra wide. It’ll now be harder to lift and you’ve greatly minimized triceps involvement. Is that a smart thing to do? Probably not.
There’s just no point to ‘squatting’ the weight up in order put greater emphasis on the glutes and quads. That’s what squatting and other quad-dominant exercise are for.
Actually it is a good thing to VARY your workouts routinely, whether that is by increasing the weight, rep numbers, the order of exercises, changing ur position a tad bit, break periods, etc…
New stimulus to the muscles encourages muscle growth.
[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
The reason why I say deteriorate is not because the form has necessarily suffered, but it is much much easier to get the weight up 1 joint at a time. So for the people that are rising and straightening their back and legs at the same time are doing a harder lift.[/quote]
REALLY??? I thought it would be harder to bring the weight up if u use 1-joint at a time, rather than multiple joints at a time. I mean when u curl and don’t move ur elbows ur biceps do all the work and can lift X-amount of weight. BUT if u move ur elbows ur front deltoids kick in and now u can lift X+Y amount of weight.
…still, I’ll double check in my workout later today…
I love it. You get the time-saving and psychological benefits of EDT without the excessive soreness, which allows me to keep up my training in martial arts.
[quote]disciplined wrote:
monteitis wrote:
I’ve done TBT for about a year with good results, but have recently switched to split training for something new. It’s definitely more fun and it’s nice knowing the muscles I targeted area fully blasted after a workout. Here is my split:
Day 1 - Legs & shoulders (heavy)
Day 2 - Chest & Tri’s (heavy)
Day 3 - Back & Bi’s (moderate)
Day 4 - Off
Day 5 - Legs & shoulders (moderate)
Day 6 - Chest & Tri’s (moderate)
Day 7 - Back & Bi’s (heavy)
Day 8 - Off
Day 9 - repeat
Another interesting way to view a split. I like the consideration this program takes for varying intensities of training. A lot of people forget to vary intensities throughout their training.
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I totally agree. I feel like varying intensity was also an important factor in my gains when doing TBT, but a bit more complex. I did the same exercises every monday, every wednesday, and every friday- all of which were total body workouts. However, one would be 10x3, one would be 4x6, and one would be 3x10.
Each week, I would rotate the rep schemes ahead two days so that each exercise was hit at a different intensity each week. in the words of Borat, great success!!!
I’m currently doing Total Split Body Lower Upper Training. It’s a new system I’ve developed that’s backed up by the latest scientific research being done at the ISRI (Infalible Scientific Research Institute). This new system is proven to be the only training system that works for non-AAS using non-genetic freaks. Every other training system is a complete piece of shit in comparison. In fact, only dumb fucking idiots would be stupid enough to do anything other than TSBLUT. So unless you’re a AAS using genetic freak dumb fucking idiot, jump on the band wagon and start TSBLUTing today!