Okay, so both soy milk and skim milk have their disadvantages. Soy has its estrogenic effects (“bitch tits”) and skim milk, while fat free, has lactose.
If you had to choose between Silk (100 calories in a cup, 30-35 from fat, and 6-7 grams of protein) or skim milk (80-90 calories, 8-9 g of protein), which is better?
Also, if a person is not lactose intolerant, does lactose have any negative effects on performance/growth/health etc.?
Thanks a bunch.
Try that Carb Countdown stuff several people on this site have talked about. Might be better than soy or skim.
Hey, there, amkn64. Welcome to the forum. I see it’s your first post!!!
If you gave me the choice of either soy or milk, my vote would have to go with NEITHER!!! The only time I might need something that is milk-like would be with cereal. I take some Low-Carb Grow! (vanilla) and mix it with water and ice and use that as my milk beverage.
Actually, if it’s a case of your being lactose intolerant, there are lactose free/reduced milk products out. Hood has some products out that looks pretty interesting, too. But the reason I’m anti-milk is more the fact that a percentage of the population has a sub-clinical intollerance to it. There are certain food that are famous for “challenging” the body and making it work harder than it has to.
If you’re a person that knows you don’t have a problem with milk, there isn’t any reason you can have a glass here and there – or even cottage cheese or cheese, as the case may be.
[quote]amkn64 wrote:
Okay, so both soy milk and skim milk have their disadvantages. Soy has its estrogenic effects (“bitch tits”) and skim milk, while fat free, has lactose.[/quote]
I would, and do, choose skim milk, by far.
Lactose really isn’t that bad for you unless are lactose intolerant (and in fact, I’ve read some accounts claiming that soy is a bigger allergy concern than milk, due to the number of allergenic proteins and the processing which imparts a high amount of aluminum). Milk it is somewhat high on the glycemic index, though, so try to time your consumption appropriately, and don’t overdo it, especially just before bed.
If you want the perfect solution, look into the low carb dairy drinks. The most common one I’ve seen is by Hood, with their “Carb Countdown”. They tend to have about 5 grams of carbs, and 12 grams of protein per serving. And they’re soy free.
Also, there are times when skim milk can be very good for you. In an article a while back coverning a strength and conditioning conference, one of the T-Mag contributors discussed a study on post-workout nutrition, where they stated that anyone who wanted to know what the best cheap alternative to Surge was, this study answered your question, and it was skim milk.
I should also point out that the more I read about soy (and not just from T-Mag), the more strongly I want to avoid it. Heck, just a full description of the extensive processing soy has to go through before it is “safe” to be used in food is enough to make me never want to touch it. . . and that’s without even getting into things like the estrogenic affect it has on you, the carcinogens soy has (or are introduced by processing), or the potential thyroid problems it can cause.
My suggestion? Before using soy, read some of these:
http://www.the7thfire.com/HN/truthsoy.html
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/Soy%20Allergens.html
http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lsoy2.htm
http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html
http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/soydangers.html
amk64:
I’m with TT on this one…
Low Carb Grow! “Milk” is the way to go.
I would experiment with the right amount of water to powder that would work for you in terms of both taste and consistency.
Good luck!
Mufasa
W/r/t the “Carb Countdown” milk, I just bought some of the non-fat this week to try it out, and it is quite good – it uses extra casein protein, has fewer sugars, and tastes pretty good.